David Ayers

This is dry when Josh Graham drive 3 to 7 on source of this right. I was incapacitated with the cold all weekend long, all I've had to do was watch games, read stories and prepare for today show and I think it's going to be killer all day today and we have to talk about the hurricanes emergency backup goaltender David Ayers is helping the canes to a win in Toronto. It is the perfect sports story. It has all the ingredients to transcend sports and the conversation and the new cycle and that's why I think you see him on Dan Patrick on Fox and friends on CNN he's transcended this market he's transcended sports and it's because I think in large part, he's very relatable. We are drawn to relatability Lebron James. We probably can't relate to having ability like he has a God-given basketball playing ability, athletic prowess just beyond anything we know but we can relate to a place like Akron, Ohio.

I think we all know the town that similar to that how bowel staff. I don't think we can relate to have a good dad who was an All-Star in the MBA by we've all been in the gym and saw a guy looks like Steph Curry there's relatability and that Tom Brady at scouting combine week I could look at Tom Brady's draft profile every day during the year and it still won't get ultimate Tom Brady looking flabby running the 40 yard dash very slowly picked 199 there's relatability and that we find.

That's why we like the underdog stories we can relate to them better. Even Michael Jordan Lenny high school in Wilmington. He didn't make us high school basketball team is freshman year. Those are the things that we are drawn to and with David Ayres, 42-year-old kids to be transplant for 15 years ago never had an opportunity to play professional hockey at lease of the top level. And here he is waiting again for the Carolina hurricanes.

Secondly, it's an easy story to understand.

This can't be stressed enough. The stories of plots that do well are the simplest ones.

That's why they're often mimicked and repeated across all of the movies we've seen decade to decade to decade to decade stuff works stuff gets mimicked stuff gets copied and I think the same applies when it comes to what stories resonate more I could tell you the entire David Ayres story in one sentence I can make you understand why this story is incredible by just say in one sentence, 42-year-old Zamboni driver beats the Toronto Maple Leafs. The best action movies you can save the plot in one sentence. I don't know about you, Robert.

But when I want to see an action movie I wanted to be thoughtless. I don't need to learn something with all the explosions with all the fight sequences.

I don't need that at all. I view fighting and action movies like a McDonald's big Mac right but I'm not to get anything thoughtful out of this market to get anything good from a health perspective out of this but you know sometimes I just need a big Mac. Sometimes you just need an action movie the good ones.

You can explain in one sentence taken Liam Neeson's daughter gets kidnapped speed Kiana Reeves and Sandra Bullock are trapped on a bus that can't stop.

I want to kill Bill this weekend. Bride wants revenge on assassins who killed her family easy to understand your end from the beginning. That's why think this story hit so hard because it's so easy to understand. And it's less believable it's more unbelievable as you start exploring the details, which is the last piece of this. Why it's a tremendous perfect sports story. There's no letdown. It's almost fitting that it happens on the 40 year anniversary of the miracle on on ice the USA beaten the Soviets that is a perfect sports story that's just unbelievable. Soviets, they beat the Americans by a ton before the tournament. I think six days before the tournament begins and then this team of teenagers beat arguably the best team ever in hockey hockey team that just months before the tournament beat the NHL All-Star six do nothing that is amazing. That is unbelievable the details.

They don't let you down but sometimes to fill the sports gap you create movies you have to embellish things a bit. Some stories are is great when you look at the detail some stories that become movies are so great invincible I didn't think it was that great of a movie with Vince Paoli making the Philadelphia Eagles because okay what did he do at the Eagle really contributed much. He had a guy on special teams. Rudy had to embellish that.

But even with the embellish version 1 Rudy Dillard Notre Dame played a meaningless snap at the end of the game got to a quarterback.

Okay, Michael, Sam, he gets into the NFL water story. He's the first day player to be drafted openly gay what Michael Sam doing the valley never hit the field so when you explore the details of most stories that become movies that become big headlines, there's often some letdown they're not here. He's wearing Maple leaf pads. He's employed by the organization.

He drives the Zamboni for their minor league affiliate, the hurricanes they needed points they needed to win. Rod Brind'Amour was asked what he was thinking when this goalies coming into the game he saying to reporters. He thought he was being plonked he gives up two goals in the first three shots then shuts out one of the best offense of teams in the league in the third.

The hurricanes were great.

They only got seven shots on goal but he stopped him. He's the oldest goalie to win in the debut ever and he hasn't played a competitive hockey game any level hockey game in over five years to go back to February 15, 2015. The last time David Ayres played competitive hockey in goal. It is a perfect sports story. You can tweak the show at sports of dry 336-777-1600 is the phone number if you care to chime in that way could the David Ayres story happened in another sport. I don't think so. I think hockey goalies. One of those positions that are so important that are so impactful that you have to have emergency backup sitting in the stands because it's also a sport that's dangerous enough where you can have both James Reimer and Peter Marrazzo go down in the same game over the weekend NC state sport spoiled a real opportunity. I thought they played FSU if they be FSU. There into the NCAA tournament. I think as an at-large bid.

If you have wins gets to top 10 ranked teams. I think that's a done deal. This time a year but let me preface this on the front end because I think it needs to be said and I need to be understood.

I have profound respect for NC State fans. I don't think there's a fan base in America in the college sense that is taken as many gut punches Aztec pants at habit one in NC and ACC championship in football, basketball, both women's and men's and baseball since 1991, yet their fans are still just as passionate still just as involved still just as hopeful. So I will always respect NC State fans, but there is something with NC State. Specifically, that bothers me and I talked about this a handful of times and it was a case in point example Saturday you got a stop blaming the officiating. Every time you lose and it's not even just the fans like if it's just the the loudest people on twitter. That's one thing but NC State fans I know and respect are constantly bringing up the rest away.

North Carolina fans are even doing even though they're going to a seven game losing streak, and if they lose to the pack tomorrow it will be tied with the longest losing streak in the history of North Carolina basketball when they lose their not blaming officials. NC state loses. Kevin Gage is pointing to file disparity. But how is that helping your team pointing the file disparity. It wasn't a good technical file to take for Keats in the final 10 minutes of that game, you're down 5348 you didn't like that Martel Johnson didn't get about call but you look at the replay he didn't get fouled. You get some charged up about it. You get a T and all the sudden a five-point lead because a seven point lead and then minutes later you're down 10. It was the wrong time for a technical after the game.

He's pointing out disparity PSA for everybody out there a disparity in files. One team B and called for a certain humble number of penalties and/or files versus another does not indicate officiating bias, but I see it, so alternating a call for this, but he found me a call for this minute. Clearly there's something to be interpreted from that my interpretation you found more than they did. Roger Ayres. It's amazing that the David Ayres story is more prominent today that were what were talking about them. Roger Ayres, a real upset considering the NC State game is a lot earlier that day. Roger Ayres is one of the best officials. The ACC has if you're looking at a conspiracy theory all everyone's out to get NC State.

The ACC they benefit most of NC State wins if it's a stay, consider the tournament. Then they make a ton more money they make, they get another team into the field for the states already a lot to get in Louisville is as well due to so they wanted NC State to when I came will never admit it, but they wanted NC State to win that game blaming officiating. It's lazy. It's like the guy you know who gets drunk all the time and blames all of his issues on the government this year around. Things are going rough for me and I'll tell you why government.

Thanks a lot, or trump whoever it might be no we all know that person gets liquored up and starts blaming the government for everything. That's what it sounds like to me when it's constantly officiating. It's lazy.

It's embarrassing. NC state is better than that.

I love their fan base. I love their passion. It's amazing how passionate they are without having much wedding to justify them being there, but come on now come on with the officiating stuff what's good Aaron in Greensboro who wants in. He has a comparison a movie comparison here for the efforts of Dave Ayres Saturday night what you got for me Aaron, the rookie would grade report. Give more pretty good right there. Thanks for the phone call and will suffer get Jim Morris played for the Durham Bulls on his way to becoming temple, a Tampa Bay Devil Rays at that time. The best comparison I have afforded to do movie examples here, Robert Dave Ayres is essentially Ricky Bobby. If Ricky Bobby was a real story how much crazier would it be, then what we actually saw on Saturday, like if a driver decided to get out of his car and grabbed Berger's and they relied on someone in the pit crew to drive the car and he ended up winning. How much crazier is that story then Dave Ayres 42-year-old who 15 years ago had a kidney transplant had it played in the competitive game in over five years beating the Toronto Maple Leafs while wearing they believe Pat it's close but I do believe that the laughing malt liquor clown or whatever that car was and I think they were in last place and he came back and when Ursula came back and it even when that race. He got second in the eye and watch Talladega nights again. Did he win the race for the second I don't think he wins. I did not exactly on this like I have the actual sports stuff.

I have that down pat, you need to correct me on my sports movie accuracy. I know Jim Morris. He was adorable before he became a Tampa Bay Devil Rays I don't know for sure if Ricky Bobby won his first race but I do remember his first interview when my supposed to move my hands and he starts with doing them up. Aaron, can you fact check me very quickly. The accuracy of the statement Ricky Bobby won his first race. No I don't I don't think he won his first race farmer correctly. All right, so yeah, the Dave Ayres story is crazier than the Will Ferrell Ricky Bobby first race story.

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We just learned Robert doing a little bit of fact checking. Ricky Bobby finished third in that race was at the Daytona 500 matter, but Ricky Bobby finished third in his first race sports coverage is getting here only sports up some enticing fury he's been compared to Mohammed Ali do we have enticing fury singing after the match.

He's done this a couple other fights, the singing songs he took away the microphone from the guy interviewing him.

I generally have a problem with that, but nobody cares.

That's just me being a journalistic TV stop, but Tyson fury saying this after he knocked out Beyoncé Wilder and is he a good singer question. This Tyson fury think he's a great thinker probably thinks is adequate like he reminds me of Vin diesel thinks he's actually a great thing yeah you can find Instagram pose after Instagram post.

In fact, Robert will revisit this a little bit later on. See if you can find any of Vin diesel singing by the end of the segment. In the meantime Tyson fury's being compared to Mohammed Ali, not by gasbag radio host like myself or Aaron was a big boxing stop if he was prepared by Teddy Atlas earlier today is what Teddy had to say. Pairing Tyson fury like a hot Ali is doing with.

Sometimes we forget we have these guys before we start on the rise, and a Mohammed Ali no, maybe Ali did a little more classroom openness and mortality. No rally at 1000 most the same thing cc front of so big. Try to make talk about so that was Teddy Atlas and I don't think it's a crazy comparison thinking that Tyson fury has the same charisma and lack of fear old-school boxers like Ali have. He's a throwback. Once the fight click show you what the fight Wilder, not once but twice he's a showman he's licking the blood off the neck of Wilder at the end of that math singing in the rain. He's wearing Apollo Creed trunks in his previous fight before things get started now. He said some awful things in the past, but when somebody's in the spotlight, particularly in the barbaric sports such as boxing are going to have some issues with every single fighter Mohammed Ali even had some issues with the way he referred Fraser ahead of some of those bouts and fury. He's had some homophobic comments he's had some things that I'm sure he would like to have back apologize for those I think growth matters.

I think separating the art and the artist is something that needs to be done in instances as well, but a big way for Tyson fury and am fascinated to see what's next for him for the Carolina hurricanes there to be missing the two goaltenders they lost on Saturday and Brett Pesci for a significant amount of time we don't know for sure elements could be, but Sarah city and reports the hurricanes are not to have both Peter Marotta six and James Reimer for tomorrow night's game at home where you be honoring David Ayres and his efforts, Brett Pesci, their best defensemen.

He got hurt in the game as well so the hurricanes started pulling up goaltenders will see what happens.

Is it going to be the death of it's the great goaltender from the AHL champion Charlotte checkers getting the start is a good to be Forsberg is pulled up as well is always a Forsberg running around in the National Hockey League hurricanes made a couple of deals at the deadline as well. Highlighted by Vincent Truax. Check the top six forward. They brought in exchange for three players of the Carol and her kids.

They seem to have gotten better today but not great news in the front when it comes to the two goaltenders and Brett Pesci so clearly the Lakers hold a beautiful, all-encompassing Kobe Bryant Memorial the day on 224 they had everybody from Gino Auriemma who was recruiting Gigi Bryant built a relationship with Toby to Sabrina and ask you, great player from Oregon who had a chance to speak.

Build a relationship with Toby. You had Vanessa Bryant speaking Rob Polanco speaking and writing we were starting to go on the air. We see Michael Jeffrey Jordan skeptic step into the microphone and he is in tears. Here's a piece of what MJ had said no mix. That's pretty cool. MJ he also said that the P a piece of him died the day that that helicopter crashes referred to Kobe as his little brother you had an emotional Shaquille O'Neal had gone to Rossi speak to you this Jimmy Kimmel, he was guiding the proceedings.

Beyoncé open things up singing hey well so it was emotional and the reason I'm talking like this.

Is it because I moved to emotions right now. It's because my throat is sore. Robert what you believe my just being emotional. Talk about Kobe or is it because my throat and sore the starship utility is tears are real I don't but leniency emotions use channel, but you young men expressing selves. Robert has no idea what were doing – make that a drop. We need to find Don Cherry for the larger works thing thrown at Don Cherry drummed on women was done. Women who was drunk, he's always drunk on CNN on New Year's love drunk on the death. I love big top 10 matchups in the ACC. That's what we have later on tonight. Nice transition. We have Florida State facing Louisville, but apparently Louisville still ranked 11th so I guess it's not a content backup Louisville's 11 Florida State is a it's a massive game. I think Florida State and what it may have more depth there at home and I think it's a matchup problem. I don't think the Cardinals match up well with this FSU team when they met the first time at the Yum Center. It was all FSU even though Jordan Mora had a big game Louisville. They look shaky at home against the Tar Heels even though they ended up winning by double digits elected Knowles to win tonight in a massive ACC game. I still think Duke when you consider the schedule they are going to win the ACC regular season out right. They haven't done since 2010 one. The number one story on the five things at five today, thousands of bees attack police, firefighters and onlookers in California. This is terrifying.

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And yes, where multiple places actually bow my butt once even I've been stalling everywhere I bees lost Yellowjackets everything I've been stung by everything. This swarm of bees estimated to have 3000 30,000 to 40,000 B yeah bees are these your question and most poorly with her knees look like I don't know if they know the type. Okay, it's not honeybee. I don't think it is so they call the beekeeper to the scene is trying to extinguish things like that with you the firefighters and police officer and two civilians go to the hospital. Bees just terrifying. I can imagine if you see a swarm of 30 to 40,000 bees coming at you and what exactly you do, but California problem right right all right Robert, do you have sound of Vin Diesel singing Tyson for fury.

I believe thinks in his heart of hearts he is a good singer. That's why he sings in the ring. I believe that he's not a great singer Vin Diesel. He posts videos of himself singing in his car is on stage.

It points there's a lot of videos you can find out there Vin Diesel singing and I think you don't do this unless you think in your heart of hearts you're a good singer.

Let's find out together.

Vin Diesel it was with my brother Pablo hello you will here with Mr. Vin Diesel is a non-housing in their selling Vin Diesel I'm good on I can't even after that one little clip that's all I need to know that he's not terrible is not great either is somebody impaired to be the Lamb's thing and I would think like I have no issue singing karaoke songs, but I don't think I'm a good singer whatsoever, Aaron. He's the type of guy wears shades indoors what he's doing right now is front man of about of the of the band so Aaron he has confidence you say yeah I'm good singer and I could sing just the look nice and the girls like is that though have any music ability to impact why the Cincinnati Bengals or the best situation for a number one pick in years next. Josh grandma loves to talk sports. He also loves to daydream about sports, mostly about being the locker room towel boy your drive with Josh Graham and this ties in very think he's a good singer on Twitter at sports on dryad 336-777-1600 also been choosing American pie means he might be the worst karaoke singer out there. Not because he's the worst finger in terms of talent singing ability but song selection. Nobody likes the guy who chooses the nine minute song.

Me and Robert. We were discussing this just before the show. What is the longest song that you're not depressed, skip on your not to turn the channel you're not going to change it from your iPod. I almost said something incredibly old is not already archaic and old saying that you have an iPod trying to change it.

For II had like it or an orange iPod nano. While it was one of my favorite things and yeah you could shake it up and it would shuffle. I forgot that it was the worst you're running right so what is the longest song that you're not present skip on because I'd venture to say American pie might be my selection like I'm skipping free bird yeah that's I'm skipping the doors you need to be in the right mood for the doors to, I'm one male LA woman comes on, you need to be in the right state of mind. Talk about the Pink Floyd like ballads like echoes or something. It's 20 minutes long hours or to skip that I don't know.

There are some Pink Floyd songs are pretty long like time yeah are you skipping time.

No, not me. I'm skipping echoes not time American pie comes in 837 free bird is 910 so you're saying no to free Burger skipping free bird. I'm skipping free bird, but I don't like the person who chooses American pie karaoke. Aaron is a massive boxing snob. I bet he was like a pig in mud Saturday night watching Wilder fury to Tyson. He has all the charisma and lack of fear that boxing needs. He's a throwback. He wants to fight the very best it doesn't mind it doesn't matter if it's the good Klesko or if it's the art they Wilder two different times. That was a real problem for boxing this last 15 years, we have Floyd Mayweather dodging many patio for about a decade and that fight. We finally watched it five years too late in 2015. It was a real problem, people only cared about having a zero in the loss column, but fury doesn't seem too concerned with that he so confident he doesn't mind fighting the same way they did in the 70s where Fraser wasn't scared of Ali and Ali wasn't scared of Foreman so wanted so forth. You had all those great fights but I'm not as big of a boxing snob as Aaron is at Aaron as big of a boxing fan as we know him to be doesn't have the boxing credibility that Teddy Atlas dollars so us throwing around comparisons between Tyson fury and Mohammed Ali. It doesn't really mean much, but when it comes from Teddy Atlas.

Then you start to listen and this was Teddy Atlas. After the fight sometimes we forget with these guys before we start unlocking these guys in a norm is going to Mohammed Ali know.

Maybe Ali did a little more class will finesse and talent know how we had more towns and most the same thing cc front of something, try to make about, but it's not just throwback to being able to fight people what ascending yet there is showmanship that we haven't seen at this stage as well. Most of the showmanship we see in the fight game nowadays is in UFC. It's jumping the WWE Mohammed Ali and boxing was big before WWE became a thing before you. You see the UFC even coming into existence mixed martial arts Tyson fury.

He's a showman, so much so that he will seeing in the ring after matches.

He will wear Apollo Creed trunks on his way into the ring. He's going to lick the blood of the art they Wilder because he said so that's wild you ever seen anything like that. Aaron I can say is that I usually cancel my bike's money is zero time that was showmanship theory is actually doing stuff with WB is that big of a showman is all right yeah he he had a match against Brock Leisner at Summer slam. I believe that I could separate art from the artist. I was very close that this was very close to pressing send on its way.

I regret I would've regretted immediately Saturday night because five or six years ago Tyson fury. He said some pretty egregious things about homosexuals, about just the LGBT Q community. He's compared them to like you compared the beastie reality for all things like I can't even say some of the things he's said publicly, but I have to remind them. I remind myself separate the art from the artist were able to do that with Kobe Bryant as he's mowing today and there's a reason why everybody jumped over jumped on people who were try to bring up 2003, in the moment were morning. This man that meant so much to so many. Floyd Mayweather even with him. Somebody who hasn't even been apologetic about his actions. Floyd Mayweather, I can at least acknowledge that he's one of the most tactical fighters we've ever seen like just a tremendous tactical fighter separate the art from the art and with fury. One thing I didn't realize until doing more research was that in recent years, yes, often softened in the sense of welcoming more ideas growing, learning he's been apologetic publicly about some of the things he said in the past so I'm to give him a bit of a pass on Tyson fury he has the charisma he has the lack of fear that boxing needs my question today, though, is what is the next fight that would draw all the most amount of interest. What is that fight that you are most interested in seeing a guy like Tyson fury take on next. Aaron oh, the obvious choice would be to the Joshua home Joshua take that fight. After falling the way he did last year to a guy looked a lot like the goalie for the hurricanes on Saturday night right.

Who was that Ortiz and the ruler Andy Ruiz who is to visit loss is inside you got to do attempt to go to programs which you definitely do now Tyson fury in Tyson fury's case you you take the fight and Nesta make the fight on lists Dante Wilder files for remit. He has 30 days to clear for Michael Jordan right now as we speak is mourning the loss of Kobe Bryant at the memorial that they have at Staples Center and he's in tears man he's bawling. He said I'm reading the quotes right here will hear some of it in a second. He's called Kobe Bryant his little brother and said that a piece of him died when when that helicopter crashed about a month ago but he even referenced as he began crying, the crying Jordan mean this is some of that so now you look at another currently mixed that's fantastic and it's been a beautiful ceremony. So far you got Gino Auriemma speaking to God and ask you the great women's basketball player, or again so it's not just his Laker teammates you got Rob pulling Vanessa Bryant. Many of the greats on hand Bill Russell was at the Laker game yesterday wearing a Kobe Bryant 24 jersey this this is a moment in time and you got Michael Jordan the greatest ever in two years.

I don't know if we can hit topics like this today Robert because of my voice. The state of it. I'm not very emotional about this right now even though it sounds like like every topic I hit the days get a sound like a very emotional. I don't know if that's a good thing at all like, what's the most unemotional topic we could talk about and make it seem like that.

I'm very emotional about. It's just the state of my voice right now. It's not a good place.

Maybe, I was missing something with cam, but even that would sound emotional with you that habit we get somebody else to talk about cam.

How plausible is it for the Carolina Panthers to trade up for another quarterback Joe Burrell at number one Panthers beat writer Joe person will join the show to discuss next to me, this is dry likes to kiss me warm. This is extremely small children and don't let them disturb you back to the dry when Josh grabbed now be enjoyed by Joe person of the athletic Carolinas reporter. He has the story for the athletic today. If Joe Burroughs shuns Cincinnati the Panthers could trade up to the number one spot and this is going to be the story that command a nationally televised scouting combine this week.

Remember, for the first time the event is going to be held in prime time and it starts with quarterbacks later in the week. Joe, what do you find to be more plausible today.

The Bengals trading out of the first pack or the Panthers being the team that trades up to number one and address that in the column. I'll tell you what I mean annoyed getting louder and involving Joe Burrell potentially stiff arming me a lot of the guys are starting to connect know he is being trained leading up to the draft by Jordan Palmer. Brother Carson Palmer of course came out before being escorted back or came out Super Bowl week and said the Bengals are committed to winning the Super Bowl now Joe Burrell at that platforms over the last month or so from which he could've shut this down and hold the offer that same opportunity tomorrow morning in Indianapolis that immediate time that I am right early in the morning and it'll be interesting to say. I not going to say anything by accident that he is represented by a very kind. He is, and so if he comes out. He's lukewarm about the Bengals tomorrow again and I we got a four alarm fire, at least if you're Mike grounded the Cincinnati Bengals now will Panthers do it at people around the lake. They feel like Are just enough of a wildcard to go ahead and push all forward and give it a shot doesn't mean that rules want to party hernia want to but I don't think you could just that this is the part I find interesting is your picking number one Joe there's probably a reason why and I don't see why people think the Bengals are that much worse of a situation that some of the other teams that have picked quarterback number one. Like if you just look at the last three. The Browns are one and 31 before they drafted Baker Mayfield and they haven't won a playoff game since 1994 when Bill Belichick was coaching the team have been to the playoffs, it's owed to the St. Louis Rams of moving franchise with Jeff Fisher as their coach.

They had been to the playoffs before that since 2004 Tampa Bays last playoff link when they drafted James Winston was the Super Bowl ever been to the playoffs. It's 2007 so I guess the question is, is Cincinnati's perception far worse than what the reality is, yeah, maybe so mean you remember all the years and it felt like every year work. Marvin Lewis was getting them into the playoffs. They never would seem to me managed to win a game in the playoffs but it wasn't like they were laughing stock under Mark Lewis pretty good coach. He sort of peaked in the regular season that one playoff failure after another yeah Mike Brown known as a guy and a lot of money that never goes after big-time free agents.

For the most part, so I mean there is a written record. Recently they Bengals have that replicate now you know Jonesboro is in Ohio. If that matters grew up all over the place with his father. A college coach but he went to high school in Athens, Ohio, which is not necessarily a Bengals Cincinnati yeah it's got to be really interesting. I got that all content represented represents Ryan Kalil.

He had looked equally as great, big-time NFL agent and in May and I think I read this today may have had a UI manning just what he'd been through this before so fascinated with the Jonesboro story also very excited quarterback in Indianapolis. I'll tell you very quickly who I liked about four years ago and that was Jacob.

I thought that kid could Bennett as a freshman in the athlete be like kind of a gunslinger mentality.

I know the reputation you work, you might already enjoy the college like too much. I wouldn't be surprised to see him start making the climb up the graph well so that's do you think Carolina if it's not too Herbert or I mean obviously Burroughs not to fall to 70. Do you think he's seven is too high for a Jacob Eason. It might be able to meet all it takes is one writer mean you know like my go to India not have a great medical you know I like the top three are pretty well that with with Jordan love and Jacob. Ethan kind event next year. I'm not talking for me.

Having bought Jacob Ethan over the years.

I think you and I saw Jordan love play in Winston-Salem last year at Utah State and TI mean you could see some of the traits and peace. Somebody picked up that team and led them to a lot of success the last four years were chatting with Joe person from the athletic Carolinas. What you make of this event be a move the prime time to scouting, well it sure is a lot of the network. Alcohol drinking in India. It is really being over the years people stories on all the field all the real action takes place at a handful of bars and restaurants in Indianapolis when the sun goes down.

You know how that worked out talking to coach will guide you in the lake a long time yet asking that question because you know joking aside about drinking it is people try to get let their hair down and made you coach talking to an agent like GM talking to an agent that kind of don't know Joe, this is the place where reporters they really build sources. This is a place where you get a lot and it's not necessarily at the combine itself to have that right. Yeah, I appreciate Paul now I don't know Eric but it and and there been years where I've gone and will talk tomorrow afternoon. Early pocket talk.

I don't think you talking this year and so there been years were about halfway to combine I'm like I should probably about one of these college kids because in an ugly woman gets up on the podium and in 2014 and make a very good comment about Steve's and so month and 1/2 later, it gets really and so there's news on your be that you got it safe and it it said in Indy. I like it been senior all I don't much care to get mobile again. Mobiles find it cool cool quick follow-up point about the prime time I very quickly. Maybe within the next few start seeing the combine like we start popping around. LA and all yeah I just don't know what the real substance is like the draft thing I find strange about it as a spectacle. Joe what exactly are all these people getting and watching the draft you see a guy in a suit announce another name for a guy in a suit to walk up and hold up Jersey and there's not much of a spectator sport aspect to it and then with the combine.

I don't really know what's going to drawl ratings other than the fact everything the NFL touches is gold. Even though we know who the opponents are they still find a way to put the schedule release in prime time as well. You're right, it like it all go slow time of year ago I thought were not yet marked will guide our NHL and college basketball but not of my not a lot on that network beginning tomorrow, I'm showing you for press conferences live believe and when the coaches go go probably cut into Matt Ruhl at 2 PM and before you know will prime time hours to watch you guys. You know, run and sweat the underwear Olympics is somewhat long tablet so you know for the team that that's the fan. The fan, one of the teams get out of it. More than anything else and I noticed Josh beating Jacob be like footballs not court.

Well Marty Hurley: Joe Brady get a hotel room in India for an hour and they find out it bested their intuition. Is that true or not, and put God or watching video on the net 15 meeting medical teams are worth their weight. Joe, thanks for the insight manager with the madness and I guess my guess would be that it would be extended into the night with the prime time.

All the drinking and fun and stakes that Indianapolis bring stuff. Thank you for squeezing in time for us this week it's appreciated and will cover filed on the athletic lot you have an extra person from the athletic Carolinas. One of the best covering the Panthers beat been doing it for very long time with the athletic Carolinas.

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That's right.

Keep this going to spare my headphones coming out of my real-life rivalry between a couple of things I did not expect to see happening and also I think there's somebody that looks a lot like Ricky Bobby. In today's real sport. This is