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March 26, 2020 5:51 pm

On this edition of The Drive with Josh Graham Dr. David Geier comes on to discuss NFL draft prospects injury concerns, Adam Gold joins to fight with Aaron about PJ Walker and the Sports Hub Time Machine.

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This is dry when Josh Graham Dr., Suite 3 to 7 supporters of Teddy Bridgewater was just officially introduces the Panthers new quarterback.

He did so via zooming chat. You'll hear from him in a few minutes but we spent all week long. Breaking down what cam Newton's quarterback market might be, since the Panthers have officially released him enter me. I think there are a bunch of subset markets for camp. The smallest market is the starting quarterback market. Not many teams there.

At this point may be the Miami Dolphins Los Angeles Chargers are the most popular pick. That's the place. I think he ultimately will end up in terms of him just be in the traditional backup quarterback.

I think the Tennessee Titans could make some sense. Maybe the New York Giants with the Thai to Dave Gettleman some noncommittal comments from the new head coach judge and Gettleman heading into the combine. I think there are a couple other places that would make sense to I really feel like every single NFL team.

At this point should at least reach out cam's agent to see what exactly he's asking for to see exactly what you can get cam Newton for right now based on some of the reporting I've seen were talking about between five to $10 million. That's were talking about here, and that's incredibly affordable and I think that opens up a market that you might think. Sounds crazy on its face, but I don't. A market where cam isn't exactly the starting quarterback. He is at the backup quarterback either. He's playing more of the Taser him. He'll roll we've seen in the NFC South. It's a copycat league. The St. they found a match up nightmare that led to them being one of the more prolific officers. The last two years.

It gave them an advantage.

I think a lot of teens are paid attention to this. I think it's going to lead to a team taking jail and hurts either late in the first rounder in the second round have him step in potentially play that type of role with his versatility and can't do it. I think Kim could actually do it better is a physical freak when you walk in the papers locker room as I had the last few years covering the team home games always. He's ill be there in just compression shorts and you look at them and you think, oh my gosh this. This person should dominate whatever position he's playing, we heard people say in the sky. He would fit better as a tighter much the same conversation that we had with Tim Tebo over the last decade okay to really revisit those too much. He called a pass against Tampa Bay. One day merely scored a touchdown.

Of course he would be an excellent runner. I'd argue he's the greatest red zone threat in the history of the NFL 15 more touchdown runs than the next closest quarterback that he and Steve Young 58 touchdown runs. That's three short of guys who got the ball in the 70s. Every single snap. It seem like like just short of Larry Santos touchdown numbers or O.J. Simpson's touchdown numbers.

He has more than some guys you'd consider to be borderline Hall of Famer's he's affordable to almost everybody less than $10 million. Aside from the LA Chargers. It doesn't seem like there is this really rich market where he would no doubt be the starting quarterback LA addenda emphasized I think makes the most sense. But here's the criteria for a fit if you're looking at cam to potentially play a Taser him he'll like roll and if not, if the coronavirus is just getting to me.

You could tweet me at sports of dryad 336-7771 602nd looking into the control room. Robert lost the producer of the shows, rolling his eyes at me, Aaron, Gabriel, he just gave me a really stern look.

So I got a feeling I'm going out on a whim here and if you think I sound nuts.

That's completely fine, but this is the criteria I think exist, you need to have a team that has an in mobile quarterback in their 30s and doesn't have a strong backup or I'll even add doesn't have a developing up-and-coming rookie backups are not like a Cincinnati not like the Washington Redskins. There are four teams I think that fit this criteria perfectly. Minnesota Vikings Kirk cousins is back up is Sean Manion, whatever that is, the Detroit Lions have Matthew Stafford no strong set backup barrel bevel worked with Russ Wilson all those years with the Seahawks. He's the offense of coordinator Detroit, the Pittsburgh Steelers, they got bent and I understand there's Mason Rudolph and Dr. Hodges there, but they have enough Space at picnic and make a move on camp and also are they sure Vince could be 100% this year. I'm not really convinced of that. Then there's the Atlanta Falcons, which might be the best fit of the bunch that would be crazy for him to go across the division, but Matt Ryan's the quarterback met job as the backup. This is a team it's desperate. That's why they're bringing in Todd Gurley bank Windows if he doesn't make the playoffs, he's likely not to be a a coach with the job at this time next year, or at least a head coaching job so why not a coach that knows cam very well. Cam lives in Atlanta. Why not a coach on top of that, who knows take some villain is seeing that and what it looks like the last few seasons those of the places I think makes sense now moving to the Panthers current quarterback Teddy Bridgewater. He just spoke via a zoom. Robert what you make of a zoom press conference, we got a chance to see what a lot of the living rooms and bedrooms of North Carolina's finest media looks like Jordan Rodrick shot out had a pretty sweet Soundgarden, Pearl Jam poster our good friend from the athletic, but Eddie's not in North Carolina yet. This was being held for Miami. What's your what he had to say about all its what really attracted him to North Carolina.

Specifically, his relationship with Joe Brady dating back to when they were both together in New Orleans two years ago you got there coaches were rival rates and that she sees after practice in pre-games.

I got through one of our chief never stayed accurate, those great I forgot to note Robert zoom press conference was being held from a submarine in Miami should have made that clear limits just it's not the best audio but it was good to hear from you. It is good to hear from Teddy and I guarantee you he's probably wearing sweats. I bet Everclear would like to have it that way. Hey, I don't have to get in the suit and have this starched press conference. I could just hold it for my house, probably on my iPhone.

Sitting here in sweats. Not a bad deal.

Aaron and Stella Cameron Newton style management wait to break his head yes. What blood studies drip than a look like this year. The trip chronicles the could have any less would be drastically lists all irritating.

I would agree with that. What is he been doing now since everybody is cooped up in their homes, put out sentences for Mario kart 02. Although man's every man. This born in the house that China will diminish. How strange is that for him to have every Madden from 2000 to 2011.

Is that a strange dealer in my wrong here Wyche. How much different or these games let's say 2010 to 2011 or 2007 through 2009 will the main thing would be to get neoclassic players from the older games so you may get no prime priest home. For example, some of these games you don't need some of them you could throw into the trash like the Donovan McNabb cover that has the quarterback vision Cohen. You remember that where every single quarterback of African-American descent. They have the really small cone.

It seems like while Peyton Manning's is the whole damn field. I never use division Co. but I do remember all the vision Cohen was awful. Michael Vick was unstoppable in 2004, Ray Lewis was that the one where they introduce the hit stick for the first time goodness. I love Dante Culpepper one they used to have the wraps. Remember the just have the intro music with wraps like you owned all these Madden stew I played him and then I discarded of the matter. They got a new one. The next year.

I never kept him think there's any problem with keeping him got all of them since Peyton Hillis, who probably should've followed that important journalistic question. What is is go to Mario kart racer, Yoshi guy what you think Teddy Teddy's wall Ouija Ouija Louise is like the perfect data Bridgewater character dear death, I sign off on that our new afternoon host Adam gold he's drop by for a bit and it's kind of strange. Both Keynes owner Tom Dunton and Carolina Panthers owner David Tepper are in the news that you why.

Next, check in your driveway. Josh Graham will early afternoon host Adam gold the Adam gold showed him with us now. Happy opening day to you sir should've been opening that same you saying to you and rub it in. This might be a sign of optimism and it involves a headline from Carolina Panthers owner David Tepper. I was reading market watch in the headlines.

This man who scored big during the 2008 financial crisis, says the stock market could be near a bottom parts.

It's a time to start nibbling. If you are an investor, David Tepper, you got to remember his decisions that he made during America's last crisis made him and the Nobel owner that's not hyper I hyperbole in any way that he made concentrated bets on our financial system during the housing crisis bought some beaten-down Bancshares and or he essentially just thought that the Federal Reserve is good to do their thing and he was gonna make billions off. It was exactly right here in $7 billion in 2009 profited himself personally or billion dollars. And what happened six months later he is a minority stake owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

The same thing not a bad idea start and then I'm going to buy the Carolina Panthers what sports team would you buy if you had the option.

I know you got that stock really only one I would buy I would own. I would actually know there would be to rescue me.

I would, but I would buy the Mets.

Of course, because the Mets are being run into the into the pavement in Queens by Fred Wilpon and his son Jeff, but I would buy my local hockey team, the Carolina hurricanes. Speaking of that going to be other major professional owner in the state Tom Dunton making some news as well as a story services from our states capital as the Raleigh news and Observer reported that there were going to be some layoffs of full-time employees with the hurricanes. I understand you had a chance to speak with Tom done then we heard some of it during the Adam gold shelf but explain this to me like I'm five what exactly happened here but first of all, I'm pretty sure that the news and Observer did not say layoffs, I think we all may be incorrectly assume layoffs, but right now there are mean even in the email which triggered all of these media reports that email that internal email that basically told employees that you take your vacation because we want everybody to use up all of that so we come back to what you know we nobody's gonna leave all there were no mention of layoffs, but ultimately business is bad business is bad everywhere because we don't have games so nobody is making money and will. The will the hurricanes stop paying people. I think they will there waiting to see whether or not the federal government is going to like we don't know what the stimulus bills you look like is good to get voted on and passed tomorrow morning with her, waiting to see what the stimulus bill is going to do for businesses and for employees who are laid off. If in fact they can't, you know, people can make some money so I don't we don't know what the endgame is all I will say is that the the hurricanes dispute the characterization in the news and Observer and I wanted the owner on the record as saying that he was going to make sure that the employees get paid what you make of the defense from Don Waddell last night, though, where he says no, we were just encouraging people to take their vacation time or someone you're not allowed to give mandated vacation time, but then he essentially said yet they're going to have to take vacation right well I mean you work for company I work for a company if they came to me tomorrow and said hey Adam, you have to take your however many days of PTO. I get if they told me tomorrow. You have to take that now I would say okay handwriting on the wall, because ultimately if you are let go as an employee for whatever the reason, whatever your severance package would also include vacation time not used. So if that's ultimately the end of it, then I would die would understand that.

Okay there. Get rid of me because they want me to take my vacation time editing that eventually I would look at it.

That's the way I I look at it too and I was just an interesting response from Waddell because it kind of leads us to do 2+2 and figure out what exactly is for Adam gold is on Twitter at a gold fan and there someone in the control room that's been waiting all week for you to come on because a semiserious a few days ago as an assistant producer on the show and Aaron is upset because he got really into the ex-NFL season like this is a Houston roughneck's radio show that you're on right now action he he took issue with something you said about PJ Walker error. What exactly are you mad at Adam about your was open as you new to the sports of family that you know we get off the bird food when we were gold. Maybe yesterday, two days ago of this to you. So Mr. go talk about PJ Walker, Panthers come from the Houston roof make disparaging dismissive things to say Mr. go. I think that narrating roughneck so I'm just curious dismiss specifically what I could write it down. Also, I can't believe it.

Believe it with I Outlook. I'm not saying I wasn't dismissive. II think it's understandable to be dismissive of a Houston roughneck's legend.

I get it it's under. I think it's understandable to be dismissive of what is essentially AA football. But I am I'm if you don't know if I don't know what you what you were mad about. I we can address that we can become friends. We can get past this. Yeah, that's not a good starting foot on your part. Aaron, you gotta you gotta communicate well that's what you get yeah yeah you had on the only thing we care about the only thing we should ever care about with quarterbacks right is weight loss percentage right yeah cam Newton's losses last eight start is graphics what is the more I want some more from Mr. go landing to know I can save the lives owner parents in order to put in order to play for the Carolina Panthers.

You have to have some pre-existing relationship with either Matt rule Joe Brady or somebody else on the coaching staff. I think that's pretty obvious Robbie Anderson.

He knew Matt Rowe from Temple. I am assuming that they will sign Mohammed Wilkerson, who when Matt room was the recruiting coordinator at Temple Wilkerson was recruited together. I assume that they'll sign it. Next it. It's a good thing Bill Cosby's in jail yeah Russ. He's a huge Carolina Panthers. Let's not forget that this isn't the first time the Carolina Panthers brought in the most note notorious ex-NFL star. They also brought in here make me smart, who was on the Super Bowl team. So if I'm also doing the math here.

Does this mean Caroline is going with Super Bowl pretty soon.

PJ Walker playing a broad smart role. First of all, is what's PJ Walker's nickname Rod smarted the greatest nickname in the history of pro football. He hate me right and it was also an Bill Bill Rosinski is a friend of mine was doing play-by-play at the time and when he returned a kickoff for a touchdown.

Rosinski's play-by-play flourish.

Was he hate me. We love you. It was amazing possibly could still find that that sounds a little on the Internet. So how are you going to celebrate opening day for me. I always listen to Orioles magic because I'm miserable. I have two teams I really live hurricanes during Orioles fan death. One of the two teams I have bless your heart.

It's terrible, I know you spent time in the state of Maryland. I mean I'm a huge Cal Ripken guy shoot. I mean, Eddie. Eddie Murray was a friend of the family man I love is a way that any personal Eddie Murray is one of the most miserable human beings of all time. He's a friend of the family and Eddie Murray shut out all the media except for my dad who got the no woman travel with the team a little better. That's cool that Eddie Murray was an incredible player tooth two quick things about the Orioles.

I've had for for the three years I worked in Baltimore, I had hot dogs on opening day morning with Brooks Robinson.

All three years. SK dogs of gradebook. What else is there court and I spent about an hour and 1/2 in Cal Ripken's parents house with his dad Cal Senior and his mother Vi doing a story that I did for for the news talk station there. So I never met Carol in that way. I've talked to Kalb lunch but I'd never like been like hanging out in his house, but I was hanging out in his parents house which could not be a more modest blue-collar section of suburban Baltimore. While we still have teams making songs like Orioles magic or like the New York Knicks had in the knowledge they don't care all that they do stuff on social media. They do they do viral videos that that's that's the new like there's no meet the Mets saw right with people.

I say meet the Mets to my to my kid when he was an infant one right after he was born he became he's a Mets fan because I saying meet the Mets to him on Dino until he became aware that the Mets was a thing and now is a Mets fan of my wife's mad because she's a Red Sox fantasy try to get them to be a Red Sox fan but is a Mets I'm in the just go home and be sad listening to Ernie Harwell baseball poems to go quick thing before before you have to go just Chuck Thompson legendary voice of the Orioles court right I once did a story for the ravens pregame show I was doing some kind of offbeat things and I played out a game. The or the ravens were play in the 49ers that week and I played out a game on strata medic football and then I wrote some highlights of and brought it to Chuck Thompson's house and I sat at his kitchen table with Chuck Thompson in his bathrobe and slippers as he essentially pretended to do play-by-play of a game that didn't happen week for the pandemic you doing a strata medic football game and we bring it to the air at the other whatever he wanted. I don't care. I will have you on each week. It's good to have you on the state enjoyed the show and I appreciate your puppet and after your show ended I know it's a lot of fun out of Rob was showing and I'm glad the roughnecks didn't get a chance to go for title. While Steve Spurrier getting mad about not getting a ring and then he got one roughnecks deserve one to think they deserve nothing. He's on Twitter at a gold fan. Listen to the Adam gold show electronic that is Adam gold with us on the show are and how about this via Instagram and his weird font. I think we learned a lot about KM in the last 24 hours play Wynette Josh grandma loves to talk sports.

He also loves to talk about women's footwear, but just ends up sounding creepy your drives with Josh Graham. Let me know if any of you guys have had this experience. There is a movie series or a TV show that you like a lot you like from a long time ago you really want it for the first time in a long time and you discover some of the things that you love.

Even some of the characters that you may have loved aren't as great as you remember them to be. I had that experience binging the entire Harry Potter series 8 movies, which averages out to about 2 1/2 hours per in six days eight Harry Potter movies six days we knock that out and run will easily growing up I was compared to him before I wore glasses.

People said I looked like Ron all the time I thought he was charming. He was my favorite character in the Harry Potter movies re-watching it again though, I quickly discovered Ron is actually the worst.

Like there's no reason why he deserved Hermione Granger explained that the he's just annoying is not courageous doesn't listen to any directions at all is actually really mean to Hermione, which I took issue with.

I didn't recognize that the first time back I think Hermione should've gotten with somebody else and Harry Potter should've just stuck it out with the Victor Crom or somebody of that sort, maybe veered away from the Weasley why you looking at me that way. Aaron caused Joshua Hayter.

I'm not a hater nor Hayter sounds like a hater right okay to go to my next example.

I love How I Met Your Mother. I used to like Robin Jablonski but the second rewatch Robbins the worst like Robin as the season went on, it was more about her problems. She ruin the group she ruin the ending of the show not to spoil it for those who haven't seen it, but Robin is the worst you can spoil it. This is been out for years now. I don't want to talk about it. I punch the wall.

I punch the wall after that finale buried yourself the kinds did Harmon I Joel buried myself. You know the ending of that show. It really bothered me, Robin. I am upset with her. I think she's the absolute worst for the first time I what I thought she was the greatest.

I thought she was awesome.

I had a mini crush on Robin sparkles then there's the office people now. I haven't sat down and watch the office from start to finish, but I watched enough television in my life and a lot of office bands to think maybe plan as it is great as everybody believed her to be about 10 years ago when you think about it when you look at Pam's trajectory through the seasons of the office. She starts out as somebody who hates her job, who quit on her dream to try and pursue like an arts career like she had all these parts that she did. She dropped out of art school.

I believe she quit on that graphic design graphic design. Excuse me, it was something artsy.

She she was flirting with Jim while she had a fiancée then paid in this fiancée to look awful. Just because he was suspicious. She was cheating on him when in fact she was on him, she went. She had this other guy Brian lingering about as well.

For some reason was away from his ex-wife. They were on a break for some reason. Gee I wonder why and Jens try to pursue his dream at his pan very supportive data supported his gym was for her supporting her graphic design career. So Pam not so awesome brought Roy back to the full just to get Jim jealous.

I see it all the time.

Back when I was on the dating apps. Any time I saw somebody with something office related. Just looking for my Joomla! could be your Pam. I don't want you to be my Pam and secondarily if that's something you're putting on the description for yourself. You are very uninteresting and to swipe left or if you tell me what your coffee order is that's a hard swipe left Robert. I think your judging people way too quickly.

I like to play little devils advocate for Pam. I do get annoyed by Pam in the older seasons, but she initially give up on her dreams. She had trouble learning the new software for graphic design. So when she told Jim hey I have to retake this course can be three months he struggled was hard for them to be support for that long and Jim was like, well, you're just can have to do it and Pam said no me to come back and she surprised him, but I will say this, I'm not literate.

She made Jim move to another city. Jim moved to Philadelphia to follow his dream think you're qualified to talk about the hate for Pam.

You don't even know what went okay. I acknowledge that on the front end, but I will say you need to stop hate no people for enjoying things like the office because you think they're basic.

I have an office quote on mine is not even a quote. I'm not looking for my Pam I'm looking for my Holly you know that as you watch the oh I know who Holly is. You are listening to 33 is getting of the phone number you are listening to the drive elicited the drive through 361 600 and you have any input on the north and still became overall, Weasley.

I have a ROM Weasley cardboard cutout in my house we fight that's why he got it as a gift I received it as a gift.received same word yeah I received it in loss Angeles and I didn't know how it was good to get this thing on a plane.

I thought it was good to be sitting next to me liking coach. I had to give it its own share, but fortunately I had a big enough suitcase. I was able to fold it and fit it into my back 336-777-1600 Ryan tweets and Julie Pam Beasley's name out your mouth. She's an angel, I will fight you in the street over. I feel like I'm not training the audience the way I need to I think I think they're adapting some of my ways talking about fighting in the street and such. Do we have Keenan all right, let's go to Keenan. What's your perspective. I was on the calling quickly and you have not what you are good in 2027 unique not Mac about Pam got a little bit more. You got a how do you feel about Pam that she is the relatable character had normal struggle that we all dream think you want to pursue and struggle with their Temptation, but they eat no but the you time to bought a house you need a job in Philadelphia that are in the end it all worked out. You have a good happy ending but they never you know actually cheated on each other. It very relatable. Lisa has more time start talk about Jim to 10 grand to advanced. That's what she said thanks for moving it along. We have another sports hub Time Machine to roll into this one might be underrated might be forgotten about a bit nearly 15 years ago drew breeze and Philip Rivers. They were on the same team drew breeze. He got a shoulder injury with the San Diego Chargers. He went to the free agency, the Miami Dolphins, they brought a man to work him out with Nick Sabin as the head coach and they decided to do something Culpepper instead. With Miami and then a lot of things in sports college football in the NFL changed as a result, let's figure out what our radio show like after Nick Sabin passes on drew breeze and instead he's allowed to go join Sean Payton with the same when you get here just what time what would it sound like if it dries with Josh Graham were here for some of the greatest moments in sports history. Today we find out, let's fire up the sports hub Time Machine is the Miami Dolphins. They have their new quarterback.

Don may hold. It seemed they were interested in, drew breeze, San Diego, but he had the shoulder surgery never really chance that I can really shoot your career so Dante even though he might be nicked up and stretches. That's a guy who's more of a sure thing.

You know what you're getting and Dante Culpepper.

If you honestly believe drew breeze is a better decision to have on your team. Then Dante Culpepper. I'll ask you one simple question Robert was how many batting covers was drew breeze on nothing that answers 0.they Culpepper though he's got a matting cover to run a little bit. I'm not worried about his shoulder and the and here's what it boils down to Nick Sabin.

He's an NFL coach 20 years. This this guy. He's done with college.

He's especially done with the SEC like what you have to do in the SEC already got the national title at LSU so done with college football altogether. Nick Sabin, he's focused on beating his former colleague Bill Bella check this Miami Dolphins today are looking up. Zach Thomas Jason Taylor this Dalton squad.

Now that the got.they Culpepper. I think that unlocks them a bit brought about a Randy McMichael at the name Randy McMichael Nick Sabin dolphins they're going to overtake the patriots because again that David is getting all this is in about the patriots offense Tom Brady. It's great. He's been in place when they won the Super Bowl's but come on now, it's not about Tom about Ted Bruschi about Richard Seymour, Mike Grable was guys getting older when they do Miami Dolphins Nick Sabin going to take over the football world and the NFL not college the NFL season NFL coach Dante Culpepper. He's the guy. As for drew breeze I'm seeing reports. Robert see if you could confirm this like maybe check some of the websites.

Is this in the paper today find a way. If we have Internet of some sort to see if the New Orleans Saints have signed. Drew breeze. I think that might be where he's going, I believe so.

I'm seeing reports that they were also worried about his shoulder but I'm not sure you check that out. I like Sean Payton. It was it was decent.

As Bill Parcells office coordinator in Dallas, but the saints tell me your favorite saints memory.

Yeah with Sam Mills was running around 10 years ago. The defense was good that some your favorite Aaron Brooks moment. Come on now like I feel for New Orleans right now. There still trying to recover from Katrina and we really feel for those folks but the football team. Here's what I fix could happen. I think Drew breeze and Shawn taken together, they probably last about two years give it till 2008 and I think this teams get to move the San Antonio to be in the world that that's what I think could happen you're already seeing the reports no I feel bad New Orleans after football fans, but man, the team doesn't win and I like drew breeze at Sean Payton are to be the answer. There to work out at all, not this is what you can expect to hear the Tar Heels. They just want to national title. I think it all down hill now. Or maybe I guess it's uphill to be good. Who's this Tyler Hansbrough guy really expect this got to be any good explore that next man whole Lotta wrong. There now. My proudest moment was your favorite movie that you heard and that sequence going in Bora.

I watched that movie more time to take a breath or nice is that the best Sasha BRCA1 film anyway and we talked yesterday about him doing is Ali G Hyder King Allie G. Brun, you get a Bruno story that I want to get to a second series he did seem to differ. So Tom is exposing America that was fantastic. Yeah, you are listed in the WSJ asked Winston-Salem the VCO to Greensboro to PPC in Burlington to be MFR Highpoint signals making up sports hub. Try it. This is a guide wanted to talk to all week long. He doesn't excellent job of making sophisticated matters on injury, France and all things sports medicine make it very consumable for the listener for people who read his book as well. That's gotta hurt. Injuries that change sports forever. Dr. David Geyer, who has ties to Wake Forest University. He joins us from Charleston right now so give me a sincere, how big of an issue is the NFL physical problem.

The fact that teams are able to get medical physicals taken care of when their signing free agents are trading for player from a player problem. Apparently a lot of the players that have been signed got signing bonuses predicated on basically being a member of the team and the physical. You're not a member of the team and there are reports that some of those players will miss out on large signing bonuses because they just can't get there physicals in time. Now I that may be something that the NFL players the station can work with owners to work out.

I don't know why that necessarily the case. Something about the language in the collective bargaining agreement, but that to me seems fairly unfair from a team standpoint, those physicals are critical because you want to know as soon as possible if that player is not going to pass the physical Lord not do well on the physical so that you potentially avoid signing the player and you go look for another player.

That uncertainty is very difficult to move forward with the next best option if you don't know the that one that you want does have a problem that your doctors popular to high risk took a lot of uncertainty on both sides.

That is probably not good either way. I don't know when that could be lifted, but I think this can be a problem, at least for the next month or so until the NFL give in the dock.

Doctors are clear.

To do this again. On the signing bonus front players.

My understanding are getting the signing bonus.there is a Tavi yacht in their that if they do fail, the physical when they are allowed to have one that they will lose that signing bonus, the NFL PA not a big fan of that, but still you can't adapt with what is a difficult time for everybody any different than if you got the call right away and you fail it.

Do you and I don't think you get the signing bonus there either. So is delayed you're getting the money you have to give it back.

I think that if what you're telling me is how it happened that I actually think that seems relatively fair. After we did this a few days ago 20 minutes before the news became official that cam Newton was released by the Panthers. He said Tam had a physical and Atlanta coordinated by the Panthers in his agency team according to his sources and he passed the physical and is healthy. Talking about both his shoulder and his foot.

I'm interested in what you think about the physical that he had Monday and whether or not it's your belief teams will take the results there as gospel and said I have right way past the physical, we must be good enough to play for my team, or they're going to want their own specific doctors to clear they want their own doctor to clear my think they will look don't think they just completely ignore the tremendous respect among the NFL team position. I don't know if he saw the Falcons doctorate.

This was a doctor from some there's lots of independent doctors. I did something done so that makes it a little cloudier, but at the end of the day. Know the teams are spoken want to do their physical, but they may hear this result and say hey that sounds really good. Maybe you they get to see video camera running in the looks good there and they thought they start talking to them in negotiating with them, but they're still absolutely going to want their doctors to examine that's really the only reason I think that cam Newton hasn't already been signed. If there's a lot of uncertainty about that but injury and how well he is going to be able to recover from it is even be able to push off of the bill to change directions like he could before he's on Twitter at DR David Geyer Dr. David got tired, the author of the book.

That's gotta hurt. Injuries that changed sports forever. A good read. While holdup in your house trying to keep tabs on all things injury related with cam Newton maybe will ask you about to attack of the lower and just a bit, but can't pass the physical how much does that tell you about what he can do and what he can't do this for it tells me that surgery you'll do well and that all is progressing the physical doesn't necessarily take into account where he is in the rehab phase. It is he ready to go right now it it certainly a good sign and suggest that he would be ready for summer training camp or whenever that take place if they get laid, but it doesn't tell you for sure where he's going to be in three months you I think you and I talked about this and remember when November. Maybe, and then I said that that's still typically a 9 inch month recovery and so it just tells you. I read that is meeting that he is on that the correct course he's not slower than normal considering his history when it comes to the soldier versus the injury he had last year. The list Frank that he had surgery on it's really the first thing he had significant foot injury in his career. What concerns you more long term camp shoulder or his foot.

What they say is true about and doing well running quite honestly that would help a lot. But I still say the shoulder is is worse long term for a quarterback because you wonder is you get to be able to have the same velocity and power, and it throws two years from now, three years for Melvin if he was completely healthy, you would assume he still had many years left. If you look at Brady and Drew breeze and Philip Rivers. But you worry that if that rotator cuff makes his throwing ability. If it decreases it at all. That could have a longevity issue. No list. Frank is more of a short-term if you having pain as he tried to push off on it that could quickly and his career, but if it doesn't, then I don't expect any long-term issue. There is a video earlier this week working the tone drill just about six months maybe four or five months after he had the injury against Mississippi State was a hip injury and he had quite the process just to get back into football safety might not be there completely, but he's able to run on it. He's able to throw some passes, how concerned are you about to as he gets set for the draft next month video yet, but he looked great. I like question with him is more long-term and short-term when you break the acetabulum which is the socket that the ball of your hips that then that has a tendency to develop into arthritis over a few years now, these are typically injuries in older people, not so much younger athletes. But even though he had surgery and the surgery to minimize that risk stabilize the hip and and hopefully line those pieces up perfectly.

There's still a fairly not insignificant risk that he ends up with arthritis type changes three years from now, five years from now. So my concern is not necessarily now if you look like that now II think he could easily be ready for training camp. The question would be, does he make it to a second contract that the big contracted.

I certainly hope he does things like a great kid and a horrible injury, but I think there I would be at least a little worried about that. If I was an intelligent, general manager stock the books. That's gotta hurt injuries in team sports forever.

I can vouch for its very interesting read.

If you're a sports fan.

I've always been curious about some of the injuries that you hear about so commonly where some of the procedures came from and how they impacted the sports world.Geyer. Stay safe in Charleston.

I hope all is well. Appreciate that everybody out there listening yeah definitely do your part to stay safe and keep everybody else healthy around the absolute best man.

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