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CFB's next great QB (4-9-20)

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April 9, 2020 6:06 pm

On today's edition of The Drive with Josh Graham the guys dive back into the Imagine Dragons of Baseball, Adam Gold stops by to talk a little golf, and more. 

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This is dry when Josh drive weekday afternoons 3 to 7 supports this right based on a survey I read last night. Change is inevitable in the next five years for college football but McMurphy pulled 112 130 A.D. in FBS about the playoffs this week.

72% of them said they prefer in eight team format when the current playoff contract expires in 2025. Going further 11% want either 12 or 16 teams. And if you're thinking well Josh, this is just the nonpower five AEDs time again 77% of power five AEDs polled said they want eight or more. Let's put 12 and 16 aside for now or maybe even forever, and let's just focus on eight because I think that's the ideal number for the playoff in college football and I'll tell you why a best encompasses what I think is great about college football. What makes it unique from the NFL. I have this debate with people all the time, Josh why do you prefer college football to the NFL and my simple answer to that is this in the NFL. Everybody's trying to do the same thing.

Everybody's trying to find the franchise quarterback and with few exceptions, the wildcat offense for Tony Sparano what the ravens did last year. The Panthers in 2015 with very few exceptions, the teams that win consistently have a dropback passer who has to win in the pocket building with a strong front seven. Stylistically, there are many diverse schemes that you see in that sport same in the MBA.

A lot of the same sets are run league wide which is a lot different than what you see in college basketball in college football. I love the diversity of style across conferences across different programs. There is no equivalent in the NFL to Navy and Kimi about the Lolos team going up against.

Let's say Mike Leach or Lincoln Reilly's air raid offense. There's no equivalent to that just fascinating for anybody who likes football to see how those two teams would go head-to-head such varying styles and for that reason, I think you need representation for all five power conferences you need to have an automatic bid for each power five conference team. I don't know if it would be the conference champion or just the highest ranked team, but they all need to be represented. We've seen it, but he was watch college football for any stretch of time. Those that the big 12 how up-and-down things are there in the way that game is officiated is far different game than what you have in the SEC different roles different interpretations of rules, different styles, different kinds of players different geography.

It's just a different game and you need all of it to be represented because not one style is better than the other. We've learned the group of five also needs a place in this as well. You need to have one group of five school the highest ranked one in this 18 playoff format and I'll tell you why what happened with UCF was a bad book.

UCF there should be no reason why a team can go undefeated in their conference and also in their nonconference back to back seasons and not have a chance to play for the championship. I don't think that's fair. I understand why you might disagree with that point. But if you have a playoff format. If this isn't the BCS visit.

You should have a circumstance, a team wins all their games, especially being in the best group of five conference easily.

The American is a lot closer to the power five, then they are to whoever you deem to be the seventh best conference the Mountain West or whoever back to back tears, undefeated in the regular-season conference championship game and they do not get a chance playing in the championship.

I think that's a bad book if you're listening to the show. There's a chance you probably love college basketball. We are in the heart of college basketball country and if you love college hoops you love March madness. Even if you don't call yourself a big college basketball for you probably fill out brackets follow the tournament nearly 1/3 of the field in the March madness bracket to determine the champion in that sport majors automatic bids mid majors representing nearly 1/3 of that tournament. So what's 1/8 college football playoff format. I think it's just the right thing to do. I think we love Cinderella in sports. We love it in March madness, why not college football format somebody explained to me on Twitter at sports are dry at 336-777-1600.

What were waiting for a doomsday scenario to happen in order for change to be enacted were waiting for five unbeaten power five teams and one having to be left out for any significant changes done or having four unbeaten power five teams in Notre Dame potentially getting left out of one of those power. Five teams and let out. I don't think you should wait for that doomsday scenario because I already believe UCF example was bad enough, and it proved that this format is flawed. Now, here are the two most common rebukes to an 18 format number one all it's going to devalue the regular-season really as if the top eight teams don't care who they might be playing and seated as if the margin isn't small, falling from being before seed all the way down to the nine seat the last few weeks of the season.

Come on now and also you're talking about 130 FBS team. So really, who this is affecting it's a very small group. This is not the NFL. If you think expanding to eight teams, while the NFL has 14 starting this year makes college football like the NFL, your fully yourself. 32 teams versus 130. Come on, it just doesn't make sense.

That argument secondly people think were headed towards 12 or 16. This is just opening the door to getting the 12 to 16. I'd argue it's a lot more difficult with some conferences not being represented in a given year.

The power five make up the group of five not being represented all it's a lot more difficult to say hey let's expand from eight with everybody represented to 12 or 16 when you're up for it. Everybody is a represented. I think that's a larger leap.

Also just because is a chance of something bad happening down the why does it, that should not stop you from doing what. So obviously the right thing and I feel confident in saying it's the right thing because these ladies there's more people and you're talking about 77% of power five AEDs saying that we need at least in a team playoff and I think that's going to get done sometime soon in the next five years, Baron Vaught, he's going to join us in a little over 20 minutes were to get nostalgic with baseball. It's a throwback Thursday, and I think were going to do the Washington nationals today. I put this pullout on Twitter seeing that if no more MBA regular-season games are played. The Charlotte Hornets would have the same percentage chance the New Orleans pelicans had it. Getting the number one pick last year who ideally would you want Charlotte to take if they won the lottery. They have a little bit more than a 6% chance at coming the number one team in the draft who would be your cash cow. The ESPN put out a mock draft earlier today.

They have Golden State taking Anthony Edwards the scoring guard at a Georgia for me. I think the Hornets they would race to the podium and select James Wiseman. I'm not a big fan that he left Memphis early but that was a poisonous dysfunctional situation with the second-year college coaches didn't have any collegiate coaching experience. Before that, so I give them the break with him being a teenager still. These 18 years old, make it 19 years old by the time of the draft going to start. This is not a fantastic draft. This is purely un-needs driven draft no clear can't miss prospect will mellow ball. He's moved around all over the place. You really don't know what he would be against MBA talent is bad.

It's a distraction that's good to be factored in. There's just no question about it. Edwards yeah he's somebody who's athletic but he's shooting isn't proven and his size. He shorter than 6 foot four, not necessarily what you really want in a number one pick. But everybody's floor the Hornets. They need a big man Zeller and beyond boat. They are really gotta get. They haven't last few years. If there picking six or make eighth like they would be slated if it just when an order will be top and would probably be the best case for Charlotte. I thought going into the year guard might be the pick but Devante Graham he's been a revelation he's leading Charlotte and scoring at about 18 a game is in his second year leading score of the Hornets and the Hornets. They've exceeded expectations pretty much every other way as well.

With effort in defense and coaching. I really like James Borrego, their 10th in the East 23 and 42 before things got shut down James Wiseman 71 and sneakers. Great athleticism can get up the floor with that size. He has pretty much the same wingspan and frame as Carl Anthony town. So, if he develop some kind of a jump shot that's what you're looking at, but I trust Borrego, I trust Kupchak in the draft. They've given me no reason to think otherwise.

Think about this their last two draft miles bridges in the first round 2018. Devante Graham in the second round. Last year PJ Washington right now is averaging over 12 again in his rookie year and Cody Mark Cody Martin in the second round who I saw story from Eric Musselman's former college coach talking about saying that he expects both Martin twins to be playing at decade in the MBA was a solid picked miles divine day.

PJ and Cody Martin so I think smart people are running the Hornets now who know the draft better than the ones that preceded them, the spurs where Borrego came from excellent in the draft with Greg Popovich and Borrego seem to be part of the brains of the operation for nearly a decade. I think Charlotte is moving in the right direction.

If they get the number one pick. It would begin tremendous young lineup that they bring out their Graham Rozier bridges Washington and James Wiseman, all of which are 26 and younger, but to revisit that pole. I mentioned that I put up earlier today and you can vote on it at sport sub triad at Josh Graham radio, who would you want the Hornets to take with the number one pick the options Wiseman lamella ball Anthony Edwards and other 39% of those who voted say James Wiseman and I think that's the right that since were talking about the next big thing.

I think I know who the next great college quarterback is and he is in the ACC. That's next on the drive. No mercy, no fear, you're on the drive with Josh Graham I know who the next great college football quarterback is and is actually in the ACC.

I'm telling you about them now because his name might take some time to get used to it kind of reminds me of that. When I interned for David Glenn nearly a decade ago. He took high school recruiting very seriously. At the time for the ACC sports Journal and I remember him saying to me Josh right this name down J a MEISJ miss Winston's name rhymes with famous, it's famous famous Winston and I never forgot that. Then his first college football game.

I could be wrong on this. I remember it was against Pittsburgh and might've been a Monday night game on that Labor Day weekend to start the year. He was just tremendous, and went on to win the Heisman Trophy in his redshirt freshman year, similar to the way DG got me familiar with Jamison. I'm gonna get you familiar with this quarterback. His name is DJ only I'll go away I'll say it again, DJ only I'll go away spell actually. Robert was the producer of the show would you like to take a shot at trying to pronounce this Clemson 2020.

True freshman quarterback's name I believe to be the next great college quarterback you me to attempt to say it or to spell it. Yes okay I'm gonna say DJ ugly okay and aglow lay usually a good will, and we go away. That sounds like toddlers in salt like I DJ only I'll go away you HUGELELELELEI have no idea as to our that's incorrect. It is D. J. I wish you would've just finished it at that. All right, it's D. J.last name you I a G a LELEI DJ Louis Alcala lag he's going to be the next great quarterback number one or number two depending on where you look at the 2020 class right there would price younger goes to Alabama to replace to a tongue of the Loa and these two doled it out in the All-American bowl last fall. Here's his height and weight. How's this for a frame 65 245.

True freshman to put that in perspective, that's the same height and weight. Cam Newton was at Auburn so he's at Florida for an extended stretch, kicked out, there goes did you go then goes to Auburn 65 245. That's right. Now the size of teenager DJ Louis of the low-lying. He's cam Newton and you want this game you can see he's cam Newton with better accuracy. Now Josh, you're just being reckless right now you're just being speculative, you're just paying attention to the stars in the recruiting rankings. Nobody really cares about those. How do you know this guy's gonna translate to the college game. How about we take Dabo Sweeney's word, for he seen them throw just a handful at times. Yet, this is Dabo last week. They just look very very good spring. DJ is just as an unbelievable tile manages ugly to see of God, that big that can make a makes sometimes makes Trevor to weld what type of arbitrary bugs makes trouble just to look normal with his ability to just rip that football. It's unbelievable and that oh by the way, for 245 pounds and can move so he's never really seen a guy quite like you very unique but you know you look at these guys and that you forget just got so much solar. He just makes Trevor Lawrence look normal. Think about that statement. Trevor Lawrence is lost one college football game. He's not the views are being cam Newton the way that he runs even though I think he is a sneaky athlete if I can use the draft terminology were sure to hear a year from now.

He's an accurate passer great electric alarm so great that he moved aside and ACC championship quarterback and Kelly Bryant when he arrived. Now that's not what DJs going to do this year. In all likelihood he's gonna redshirt the new rules that weren't implemented you comply in four games in a year DJ he's got to capitalize on that and some garbage time games Clemson this year and then it's going to be his offense next year.

Hot just arriving on campus just being there to hear Dabo say he makes Trevor Lawrence look normal at times and he seemed to be one of the greatest quarterback prospect we've had in the last few decades. That is a staggering statement from Dabo so if you're not taking it from me take it from Dabo Sweeney. Also Take it from Trevor Lawrence. This is what Trevor said about DJ out of her single flavors of fear of growing a strong farming is God is one that mature and develop.

That is something just Marty coming in for your whatever is not there yet. I had to work on for years to get us let's see God for long. He's already got the body that I I'm working to have not been working at it for 2+ years. He's going to be the next great college quarterback DJ Louis Alcala, lack were talking to Darren Vaught in 10 minutes going to have the breed abbreviated isolated addition of Sharon with Darren were going to do throwback nationals this week since the defending World Series champions. We also learned this week who the hard knocks, team, or I should say teams are going to be for the first time ever, it's going to be two teams featured in hard knocks. This year, of course, assuming there's going to be a training camp. The Los Angeles Chargers and the Los Angeles Rams are going to be featured and very excited about this. These two teams didn't have to be on hard knocks, which means they volunteered to do so, which doesn't make it as appealing. I think the Rams they were here on hard knocks. Just a few years ago 2016 Jared Goff he was the star of that season.

They are moving to LA so what's the big appeal this year it's Jared Goff, the quarterback, and they're moving into a new stadium that should be gripping TV. We saw the Rams in last year's episode when they scrimmage the Raiders. We've also seen the tie rod paler story as he was on the Browns two seasons ago when Baker came in. I want to be as nearly upset about this. If there wasn't a obvious better choice available now they have parameters like if you have been to the playoffs in any of the last two years you do not have to be on hard knocks you can say no. If you have a rookie head coach, you can say no to hard knocks. If you've been featured in the last 10 years, you could say no to hard knocks and HPL. There is one team that is available this year that hasn't been available any other time. Hard knocks is been a show and that is Pittsburgh Steelers close. Last year there were close the year before big Ben rock was Berger is a star.

It's one of the biggest fan bases. It all the NFL. How do you pick the Chargers in the Rams over the Pittsburgh Steelers that organization we get to know the roadies we get to know Ben Roth was Berger Mike Tomlin Oklahoma on never been featured on the show before and you could if they could not say no if HPL chose them. They cannot so Pittsburgh, they were the choice, and they missed out.

Neither of these teams chosen the Chargers of the ramp have stars unless you count Jared Goff and we've already gotten to know him and who are the stars in these teams.

Todd Gurley, he's no longer there. I guess Aaron Donald might count.

But once again he was on the 2016 team the Chargers know Philip Rivers anymore it's it's Taira Taylor. How do they miss this badly.

Robert Aaron, how did they miss this badly not going Pittsburgh Steelers over the allure of having the Chargers in the Rams to teams without very strong fan bases together in a hard knocks episode. Now socialism is number one you to teams moving to LA water drama LA drama door open in the stadium so to speak. You want to drum up interest for those fan I get it. I get why LA would want to do is I'm talking about HBO's perspective.

Why do you want this when we already did the Rams moving to LA story four years ago Pittsburgh for one is a model of stability. So this disability historically made for good television. I think you already have built-in people who were going to watch that show Steelers how many fan bases in the NFL are bigger than Pittsburgh but it's the cowboys and who I know that anybody else that will probably want to go so there never available the cowboys and the Steelers are never available to do this.

I think cowboys actually have done it one time, but Pittsburgh how do you miss on this chance for a team that's always in the playoffs and would've been in this year.

I think if not for injuries.

I think they just took the safe route. They knew they could record to teams in close proximity and in a time of uncertainty and they took the easier route. It's cheaper to film both of those guys and probably fly out to the East Coast.

Imagine eat HBO's on the West Coast and California sales. I'm using man. I I would've loved to see Pittsburgh. I'm not very interested in this art knocks it is Thursday so will be sharing with Darren Vaught and listing all throwback Thursday gnats next providing you with a kind of sports programming that makes some people.

Most people just waits to drive with Josh.

It is Thursday which means where Sharon with Darren and also it is a throwback Thursday magic about baseball. We noticed in recent years, so last year we did the Nickelback's for the 2000 last week we debuted the imagine Dragon of the 2010's of major league baseball.

We did the Houston Astros because they were the team of the off-season with the scandal, but I think they are in.

It's only right this week. We do the defending World Series champions now and the Washington nationals. It almost feels like we do that, you know, I think so.

Under normal circumstances that probably who we would started with what you were going to team for Jack in the absence of major league baseball why not everyone wanted them to be there punching back over the off it is the imagine dragons for 2010s Washington that major league baseball Johnny Estrada my top five best players. This is the imagine dragons of 2010 just looking for memorable guy and to give you a sense for who you were not looking for what Dixon that board if you want to chime in on Twitter at sports and dry 71 600 Darren just say yes or no. You agree with me or not. You guys to go off the board takes a more no real why all right.

Who were the three on your no-fly zone.

Who would not be imagine Dragon yeah right.

Harper, Stephen Strasburg and Ryan White right I think Geo Gonzales is too good. Oh come on Max. Jurors are servicers too good for this and the younger guys were on the title team. So don't throw in here like Anthony Lindon or anything like that no title here is the first Kyle my list.

If you're wondering exactly what were trying to do here this is it, shortstop Ian Desmond 255 better. That's what we want. One of the first day I wrote down without a doubt whose net your next name. Kurt really is, even though I think of them as a journeyman but yet definitely and that just like this next name centerfielder Denard fan yeah Denard span… Definitely qualifies as an imagined DragonBar by also imagined and when mainly because it was with when it came up by the giant your given the year and the timeframe fits with the national one picture written down. You have a lot of pictures I have.

Okay anyone, Roth, Detweiler Roth that one though I don't know rock Ross Detweiler and want to say it. How about I counter here, counter on the counter with Tanner Rourke a little further down your other picture was Geo Gonzales. I think right now well I go one more you got.

You probably didn't know rock that whether I can imagine Tyler click absolutely I don't. Tyler Clifford Brightman on the same direction. There, this is a borderline one rules story started to go this right next to Ian Desmond might be the best one I have second baseman Danny Espinoza is a really really really I have someone just?

Yes or no.

Give me a yes or no on these three Jordan Zimmerman hundred percent. How about Wilson Ramos say yes to every single one year the guys at 288.

There no modern art.

I think here's what the problem it would be.

Imagine Dragon for Nickelback argument like we agree that, imagine Dragon or were a little bit better than Nickelback through our our standard is raised a little bit. Yes, absolutely.

We should agree on that we be imagine Dragon plant tweets in first baseman Adam Laroche and now he is a Nickelback that is a Nickelback we need to make that clear wealthy or 100%. We named him as a Nickelback at holy named worth a Nickelback guys that were on the cut. Why I think probably people, especially if you're like a little road you have a little bit of research and like he did with the work I have one more question one more. I'm on the fence about Mike Morse good enough. Yeah, I don't think he is. I don't think he qualifies as being a Dragon keeping score at home, there are people that are too good. There are the ones that are or imagine Dragon and then there are ones that aren't good enough to be imagine Dragon Robert and Aaron are both looking at me very confused right now. Nickelback was in the NFL. Like shortstops and seven baseball you know we are trying to do will Nickelback's just as it's not a good day there just like the imagine dragons were not looking for the great players is looking for the memorable guy you're interpreting it as it were looking for the fact that man 90s and early 2000.

Literally your next name closes out one more give me your best one you got time for one more name Darren to make it a good one that I remain open for Nickelback.

Xavier Nady excellent that's great work Darren before we let you go. Tell us about the USA baseball podcast you been doing covering the great white Vermont matter back all time Nickelback of major league baseball on the pod drops on Wednesday of next week. It is Minnesota Twins legend Michael could Dyer see I thought he was too good to be a Nickelback. I remember this debate. These two can you please ask matter is it already recorded it is not, please ask him about this segment. Please do that because you need to tell them that you think he's a Nickelback. I think he's better here. Here's my counterargument on the NL batting title in 2013. Yes, I think during the Nickelback timeframe before 2010. He was a Nickelback. After that he by different too good to be imagine Dragon. Excellent stuff is always Darren.

I hope are not using everybody. Hope you're well thank you alright I guess that's Darren thought find of the around the bases podcast for USA baseball. I have an idea today would've been day one of the masters were bummed out the Masters are good to be happening until November hopefully it happens, then, but this is a real problem for CBS. Don't you think if they're going to hold it from headmasters week be between November 9 and November 15 November 15 being a Sunday. What does CBS do, since they carry NFL on that Sunday like what's the thing they do because the Masters it's one of their biggest drawls. The NFL is as well.

I have an idea. Here you let me know this is a good idea Dragon I did to Jim Nance. He, I think, said this morning that if he had the option between NFL game and the master teachers. The master Tony Romo he he is somebody who loves golf very good golfer as well for that week schedule not out yet so May 9 when they put this thing out there.

I think there's they should have a national game at noon. Now 1 o'clock noon on that week and then it ends around three or 330 and you immediately go to Augusta national for the final round of the Masters and that three hour 3 1/2 hour struggle to get until 7 o'clock. You watch the final round Tiger Woods, the leaders of whoever take hold there. I think that's the best way for them to go about it and CBS would cross that afternoon slot. Robert what was the idea you had they could just reschedule it for the 32nd of never wary and I don't think the sports world would miss a beat just like golf. It's not that I don't like it. I just think it's a boring sport on television or playing football in fall and eternal CBS on a Sunday and I see the Masters I arrived Mr. Geiser in the on in the minority of this man like you gotta remember during the final round of the Masters which generally is broadcast without any whether problems between two and 62 and seven in the afternoon on a Sunday, it it gets monster ratings last year when Tiger was involved. It started at 930 in the morning and finished around two which is an ideal if you're talking about the West Coast to try to factor in the rest of the country. Even considering that limitation.

One out of every four televisions in the country were watching Tiger's final round at the Masters. The Masters is just one of those things.

A regular season football game doesn't doesn't get priority over the Masters final round on Sunday just doesn't disagree with me. I just tell you how it is giving an opinion I'm telling you a fat telling you that the majority of people, the Masters final round will take precedent over week 12 is Masters play when the plate and not beautiful out the NFL wasn't a thing when they started playing it at that time so I don't think it's the NFL pushing them to April.

We could just disagree on the golf pro shops have to show something.

So imagine a lot of the ladies you are the ones to be talking to on this because you don't like golf. I love all of it. I love you I love college football I love gold I love bowling I love croquet I love badminton you just the wrong audience for this you just don't get it, it's fine, but now is benefit you just don't get it now better understand that you don't like golf and that's why you're saying all never wary. I think most people would say that you are wrong on this one.

You all golf fans would say that I'm saying most sports fans casual sports fans they will say around the casual sports phase want to golf shirt. They watch the Masters maybe one out of every four televisions. Aaron, I just told you Dick's has own TVs golf pro shop setting on the day you go very allotted to you, is Dick's open at 9 o'clock in the morning. I think so and 6 o'clock in the morning on the West Coast.

Maybe not probably not really the T1 out of every four televisions in America were watching one thing golf pro shops coming up why I wouldn't bet against cam Newton this fall. This is the drive will close the Loch Ness monster got her drunk Josh grab the gold show is doing the three right here on sports of Triad.

Adam is now joining us and is one of the bigger golf fans I know in the North Carolina media scene in one hour working to be joined by the tournament director of the Wyndham championship Mark Brazeau as they moved the tournament back one week from when it was originally going to be scheduled.

So were looking at the middle of August.

Now for the Wyndham versus what would've been the first week of August but it all seems to me, Adam. Like were just doing revisions for another revision that set the happen sometime soon will I will start with Memorial Ohio that we are down the road from working to get back at Fort not I would get here's here's a Masters idea I have. Assuming they figure out the question, which is the most important question to answer. Round exports. Assuming that gets figured out sometime between now and November. Here's a Masters idea I have for CBS you let me know if you buy here you have a new text versus a 1 o'clock kick for an NFL game iron Eagle Dan Fouts on the call. Let's say on November 15 that Sunday, then it three or 330 we go straight to Augusta national three man booth on 18 with Jim dance fouled though and Tony Romo on the call, what you think back to our golf that would make dark November probably between 530 so yeah I I don't think the National Football League is going to be on yet until at least 420 that the more likely there are no year which was morning time awful and look to be wrapped up by thirtyish.

No felt hard after all the law is over eon allowing for any playoff bell would be able to start at 430 unless their game night on a possibility, but I don't anything fell early. It still is the craziest staff from Tigers final round a year ago that even though weather forced them to start early for that final round. As you noted, one out of every four televisions in America. During that time span were on CBS for that final round like that's that's stuff you hear about in the 70s and 80s why Johnny Carson forever bothers me when people complain that Tiger anymore. Why do you play a close shot out what people want people to watch Tiger Woods look behind the green. When would walk off after winning the Masters last year. Every great around their they all know what he means informing now what golf on what aspect of the tournament itself being played in November interest you most.

Ultimately, whether I think the court will be exactly the way we see it, and in April, all of it might be drier that part of Georgia get a lot of rain at all in November and October, November, typically you get a fair amount of rain in March and April so they can suck all the moisture out of the temperature this weekend or today would be the locate got back what that's going to need all going to travel so I would if you have temperature 60. Go back and look at your 071110 that probably somewhere in the neighborhood. November low.

Any idea on how azaleas look in the month of November.

If you get out with a couple of breakaway. You can have all the bloom for about two weeks they bloom in March and April and many time I bag on the to prevent them from globally choose to, so there won't be bloom color dialogue case or whatever they have to. He's on twitter at a gold scene it's Adam Golder early afternoon host noon to three could listen to the Adam gold shell where yeah where NC State has a strong argument in its case with the NCAA. Because of course it's well documented either reaching out to the same law firm. Ha ha how the North Carolina reached out to to get a favorable ruling in its case academic fraud with the NCAA or academic impropriety. At that time they said it was overreaching and that's what they stuck with and they battled tooth and nail to get the result that they wanted NC State says they can't get a fair ruling because the NCAA was making some assumptions of fact and some of it in, though I I read and then the important of facts or the the issue where they could obtain outside evidence from its at investigation and look say into court testimony from TJ Casanova and others factors into this as well and NC state according to the loop, the Cox story I read yesterday that seems to be something NC state has an issue with his welder going to an independent party now, what exactly is there argument against the NCAA here. Where's the sticking point is we can debate all day long all parties and I don't know that it helped or hurt because we haven't been party issue a ruling yet, so I'm not shortening. Theoretically, you would think that it would do a better job, but frankly we have no idea the players roll the dice anyway. We had no clue what the independent panel is going to rule on to be perfectly on only saw the initial down pretty clear that the AA was really coming after state everybody involved no longer there. God created God Orlando early on but here is the closure state and that is basically going to be that the violation and the allegations are not sure that I think the allegation of Mark Gottfried complaining that he was happy to use his old body, which I don't believe allegation a white envelope you filed that ultimately the violations were so basic and so obviously you know bad that just because they're not the University bear summer spot.

I get that. I think just playing the game out and all universities should don't take any chances. Like everything the last really want to do would be tied up in court, especially with no money coming in fidelity lot. They don't want to be in that ultimately Gottfried gone early on all should get show called I don't think the state is probably at that going to deal with polisher production. I mean it was on doctrine in early with possibility. There are going to be some University penalties but I don't think it will be that drastic try to get out of everything. I don't like what is the senior looking at your home right now I here in Oxford, North Carolina law little warm yet time when all we were hit with like wall.

Very strange. Adam good to hear from you Mama talk next week is on twitter at Eagle fan early afternoon host Nicholas afternoon three right here on sports a try. I got a note behind the scenes Robert and Aaron. They were just cackling there loudly laughing. Robert is showing Aaron his tender profile for some reason thinking that I can't hear them thinking I can't notice I didn't think you could notice. I just didn't care right so talking Adam I see you guys laughing. I think you're laughing at what he had to say and then I look like you're showing tender profile of here. What's the deal. It was bumble you are looking hard enough and I think I found one of our coworkers, daughter and own tender was that right yeah did you swipe right. I did spicy.

That's that's good to be a conversation later. Hopefully hopefully it will be a conversation later get a notification whether she said yes or no is no Aaron, were you egging Robert on course. Aaron is the friend that you like oh I don't know that's that's a good idea not go well, maybe I should do a good one chat with the tournament director of the Wyndham championship Mark Brownsville in about 45 minutes to continue looking at the Masters what it might look like in November the Wyndham championship. What's the source of optimism that were going to have golf playing and maybe us attending a golf round by the middle of August. The reason to be optimistic about the Charlotte Hornets lottery chances and if they by some miracle land. The number one pick who might they take you next on