43- Bridging Science and Spirit

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Service everyone life can be very challenging. But always know that were not alone. Today I wanted to speak about integrative medicine and bringing science and spirit together and today's special guest is Dr. Niesha manic Dr. Niesha manic is an international recognized leader in the field of integrative medicine and her commitment and dedication to innovative approaches to health and wellness.

She strives to synthesize and unify her work as a physician and scientist with spiritual inquiry and practice. She is a fellow of the American College of physicians and a fellow of the Royal College of physicians of the United Kingdom it I love you. I can imagine God saying to us, and it puts us in a peaceful place but when it comes to loving ourselves. We don't want to what holds us back when the love is fair and all is needed sometimes is a little chitin. I love people.

It's also a message to you Dr. manic. Thank you for being on the show. Well, good morning good morning good morning from Terry and I'm really delighted to be on your show well and hear from Sonny back to you Dr. manic did you just give us a little bit about what is integrative medicine is that the CMS cycle, energetic science, why should our listeners care great room at college and room at a medical doctor life right and not joint diseases but all kinds of diseases to do with so to orientate your listeners rheumatology coverage is like Lupe, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis and a big one fibromyalgia.

Though a rheumatologist is really someone who deals with joint diseases, immune diseases, chronic pain, chronic now. Might as a medical doctor also branches to integrative practices now you know it used to be called complementary and alternative medicine. And we realize that what alternative is incorrect because you really conventional care much to offer and remain in rheumatology and integrative means you too great to out-of-the-box therapies so that the more correct now that most people use, and even the night National Institutes of Health uses complementary integrative medicine.

My job integrative rheumatologist is to really and Mike go practice at the bed. I open up the quest of life while Diane mind-body therapies, and yet even the virtual practices because we know now that humans and much much more than just biology and biochemistry that gives a little window into what integrative really mean anything you like I can share with you some of the national what Americans do in terms of reaching to integrative practices to bump up their health is a lot of evidence now that one in three American actually go toward complementary and integrative. Why don't I will stop there. If you have any conventional sin is no longer enough.

There has to be a combination of therapies you know that rheumatologist my short outfit is that a resounding yes and I can tell you I working very big. And trained in very rigorous evidence they met. No, we look toward trial date out we look toward evidence-based and to make our decision of which to which comic cuticle which medicine which Rod will be useful for such and such condition that I mean my practice about 20% of people even when the conventional care they remain A gap wellness and Enya talked yourself why that find our best no diagnosed what medicine it incredible. There's no question we note much more about the immunology about why people get the diseases that they do. We can understand the risk factors going to find that you know with our chemical medicine.

There is no guarantee and we now know the ironic thing.

I sat we have to step back and say okay where are the missing pieces of the puzzle.

And so when I in rheumatology when I look at all the amazing advances they remain open To complete well is that what you mean about looking up rates between science and spirit that bridge yet and we now know that randomized controlled trial evidence is very important not not enough because you you and I Amy him much, much more than just the human body. When medicine when you go to the doctors all said when we do block when we do ask Ray when we do when looking at the body just out what what my mentor Tyler called William Tiller called the body by I'm not a great place to start, but it not enough.

So I went when I was looking to be thinking as an integrated limit is, I realized first of all, one in three Americans go to integrative medicine and go to integrative medicine for one major reason diseases I might every day I arthritis. Oh yeah, I now of diseases I might think in rheumatology women have more prevalent. Yet, they are more predominantly women, no question about it and why going to integrative medicine.

They are having the shift in mindset I needed to know the minute following the it was the people who lead this revolution I the revolution somewhere in the 1990 when we started to see this trend happening where one American American are going to complementary and integrative practices in the things such as massage and acupuncture. She yoga document all kinds of light lifestyle changes and they were doing it on your own and now universities and medical centers have started to pay attention to do research and study.

It's basically taking a holistic approach integrating the spirit they are getting all I have to miss the jump to diploma at the University of Arizona called integrative medicine fellowship even after PTSD and depression and it's really any capital anger. This means that Shirley will continue talking to Niesha manic after the short break, welcome back. For this I just in any capital, and this is the king. If this is your first opinion we are talking about bridging the gap between signs and spirit and were joined by Niesha manic tongue trampling east his heart is one of my favorite talks about having genes in an alternative universe and sent me the sky erupts planes around the trees. Haven't we been there before. Nightmares that mesh Wikipedia for life with God everything is appreciated. Because if you continue listening to the song. Despite the cut the sky erupting in the flames around the trees. She never felt so left Dr. manic speaking of which, let's talk about PTSD and depression that's being treated with this integrative medicine approach because, for example, PTSD, and I feel like I've been dealt with things but some people that have dealt with things and how PTSD they have nightmares and they wake up and sweat and prayerful profound swag and everything and I was wondering if this integrative approach. How is it used in cases like this depression be the sentence you feel he can't control important and my letter I have for a number of writing a book chapter on the 550 song a form of and note there's a lot of randomized control trial data I wanted to go deeper into it and William Tiller because when I first met him in jail.

I talked to him briefly during a dinner meeting a course in miracles and I to be a student of a course in miracles, you know, he said yeah me. With the original manuscript. Now here's a clue a giant Ryan needs another giant actuality in a moment that first of all. Can work together. Mine was already unity. There was never any separation founded was not interested in mentoring a doctor they really want to learn because to me that you reaching from 5 Very Vigorous Way. I just don't. I and the model and I think it's really important for many. Well, you know, for the few months he called me out of the blue and said, I've been thinking about your request to mentor you and a change of heart, I think, and I think that if you communicate something of my clients to your calling to be a big serve and this is a big buck and I want your listeners to pay attention told me or I do anything before I shoot into my goal.

I want you to start a daily practice of meditation, pause for a moment to apply to medical school. When I applied for a job somewhere. Nowhere in my application form any medical school say do you meditate daily thing where it was mine that talk about the model briefly shows unequivocably that human intention is incredibly powerful not powerful it can change material.

I direction okay but what is mean and another at and I am going to jump Carolyn on on your question of peak, one in my clinic every single day epidemic United in the world over epidemic of loneliness, prevalent in the heart the diabetes and high blood pressure weekly. We know that the risk. Those are health problems in modern medicine, underline it at that lonely, that management cannot hands around me don't even you know about it or did you finish education rose important aspect don't understand so I'm talking a general medical actually in Pres. Obama appointed 19 Surgeon General United which is back working document equity pointed out in a very important article in 2017 in Harvard business review, and he said there is a bigger exit Janet in the US United to write me when she was Prime Minister of United Kingdom appointed you member of Parliament epidemic of loneliness approach.

How do you bridge the epidemic of loneliness and happily spiritually. Would you need to going to the Tiller targeted government because we're jumping a little bit but I want to lay the foundations playlist so we have to minutes okay intention can change materials in a very big way. He used water any use.

And he measured the pH of water with nothing out just tension he could change the peak of water in a very ethical way we could raise or reduce. My intention is remarkable. When I first ran into this. I thought impossible. Your thoughts alone.

You cannot change water in a way possible because water is very important for Madison and human intention with this consciousness. Human consciousness can do that I need to know I need to find out what model does this rigorous replicative wagon assigned about replicating data about measurement I needed to go there and not I made a jump from Madison and I to the whole enough self-funded scholarship in understanding William Tiller nine and give you not to contact your listeners may be aware of the movie what the bleep what the bleep was a very important documentary in 2005 and they surveyed many scientists and William Tiller was one feature movie though you know his sodas closure to a larger audience will know but I think he should be well known by incredibly important to make the jump from today. I did the next phase in human evolution. I do believe that intention is very important because that's what prayer is when you praying you have good intentions for somebody Empire can move mountains. So yes I do believe we have been talking with Dr. Niesha, manic, unintegrated, and information medicine where back. Thanks for joining Mimi, and is secure. You can listen to us every Saturday at 1 PM rely on the radio or optic here Roku picture channel to secure the latest podcast. I do want the devil to hit me because I only want to please God, who has that power for me and everything I hold dear is in his eyes. The constant battle that God will see us through. We are continuing a conversation with Dr. Niesha manic on mankind unlimited potential. Dr. manic felt. Can you tell us more about target experiments.

What is the concept and the significance of the results from the target experiments that well. You really crucial five.

Think difficult to equation terminology that the physician I have any contact you in my heart I knew you really crucial and when I met Lorraine. He said I know a quick numerical. This is how I leave my life.

I work with you to do meditation you. I found my mentor and so I jumped ship it away while I continued you know medical practice and a lot of time and I moved to Arizona to be closer to Dr. Tiller and find more believe that human intention can change material. I went off to study his lab and plan in place in Arizona central part of Arizona Highland buried in Highlands. I should think high-altitude pine for incredibly beautiful people.

When I first went to his lab.

It was like entering me put it this way, sacred faith, thought leaders engages in grasping all this kind of material I don't feel I can in their dining empty usual very intriguing to me was the first clue something about intention more powerful.

I wanted to go into that power very interesting experiment and what Stanford University before he retired about 30 to 40 years.

He was the chair Stanford University in California, of the Department of material.

Ryan and engineering. He was also a leading authority in Crystal really understands material understand engineering mindset is to bridge the conventional way to bridge big concept very vigorously as an engineer would have to test intention and famine. Why was it answered couple moment if you had to test. You know your intention. How would you do this without the brain made a very significant jump and I think he was closer to the truth about consciousness and intention that any signs that I know because in medicine when we talk intention and consciousness.

We look to the brain and work it. We look at green images all the color all the blood flow. All those scientists right was more closer to the truth because he said okay. The brain is an important wiring instrument facing time and consciousness beyond that consciousness to be everywhere and that beyond facing time as we know it as we measure it, as we understand him equation and not when I when I when I let them anything. No true consciousness is not limited to base between here. It is not after. Then what we think about Millie kings of you know finances in your brain you wrong much much more attention in strictly controlled environment of a physics lab answered what he did was fit. First of all, when you can. Something you are creating something if there's one when you do intention. You are creating something okay intention is a process that creation of very important definition. There's one thing you listeners want to highlight this intention is the process of creation other material mine is mine.

What will I create.

What do I create in my intention. I remember he is a giant materialCrystal. He knows water materials intimately, conventional perspective, with my intention cannot create a new water anything out to write on a piece of paper he created information. This is the second piece of the puzzle. When you create something you create information you information employed, you create information in equation you create information in plunking.

I create information talking to Amy right now I'm creating thing is this is this what you information medicine different than integrative medicine won't come back to that, but we are reaching rib drinking. You have to have a break around to get that information down the first thing it can you create information now that information captured by speaker you know when you trying to change material. First of all you don't I feel ever work in a lab, you have to be you can hold in intention forever to change peach of water. Can you do that will take weeks or month. You can't keep intending forever now something very, very interesting. He and a group of his well it was two or three of his graduate student held intention in a medication.

First of all, they went into deep meditation, then held the information that intention in your mind collectively and recaptured that into a device that devices a simple black box which then is used to broadcast that information to the target, which is water and they found astonishing and this is like you possibly do that showed that you can't and you can do this repetitively replicated hundreds of what is right. Yes, this is the targeted and intended first of all those which depression faraway distance and that there was a control group that was taking conventional medication and the other group was doing the integrative medicine what you're talking able to capture what you can influence machine back to energetic the kid that the whole basis that you all times and verify that when you and you object every knows that this is old time okay go to energetic time when you have a divine that you can imprint actually teamed up with Dr. Gabrielle Gilbert is a psychologist in San Francisco, Gabrielle and Dr. Tiller teamed up to help people with loneliness based in Tampa fiscal very think that people but they're coming to Gabrielle Hilbert. Dr. Goldberg loneliness is Moses's party. You know, about 15 most often been low topic and anxiety needed various markers in this topic of what he called self love or self-consciousness project oath outflow project with Gabrielle and it was it was a small protocol ME know about 39 people who signed up to be very, very successful people in San Francisco and let me get Tiller created a statement in intention statement to help people with low self and anxiety. Okay, that things pertaining in any capital in the six-year live every Saturday at 1 PM. You have to care broken CQ.com today were joined by Dr. Misha talking about man's kinds, limited potential. I do love to Linda my hair when I type my car feeling the breeze. I thought my side and the long hot days uplifting. I say make it a point to appreciate nature and orthopedic that surrounds us. God has been the sunshine in my life with him. I know I can get far because it's amazing how often I now look up at the sky.

The sun reminds me of how grateful I am always listening spirits. When a place in a dry Germanic. We we are talking before we got It hard break we were talking about an experiment that was done.

Loneliness focusing on compassion you seen intentional healing that Joe .3 things secure and when not bad you and greater than you shall do is is that correct anything. Remind me what went there at this time to show that we are in the image off the create tour create information.

We have the power to change something in a Benish show way and not divide imprinted with then later on shown no moat 540 people or so will be file should more self love greater.

It was amazing when they're done in a short 12 month or so of this program and remember the device is in Arizona. It's not even with the people on site in Arizona which brought information information traveling not to a telephone line where my book begins to ask for the model which I leaned really miraculous phenomena at a hearing, a healing at the distant prayer is real.

How were you know and and I have a terminology aquatic in my book granny the grandmother in her church that is praying for you. You better believe it. She has great power okay when and Gabrielle Hilbert Ehrman what was really amazing is that not only was the primary outcome.

People felt less anxious, depressed and lonely and you could show despite standardized questionnaires go over people started to have more coherent in their life they chose better die for lost weight. They became time here in their life they felt nothing out of conditioned change.

Remember that something in the old shifted and you could see you know II feel happier. Everything else is the same unique. Their life more on time and not way you could come over and over many facets of their life. Much, much more than just connecting your anxiety, which was of course the primary thing that was going for something about this information medicine is very powerful with chemical without any physical contact has a way to reach out to do something on the planet and that's what I mean I is all just goes the certain places, or people went to the people with wind up other beautiful aspect about the Tiller physic forest that you bring about when we when one person rated her consciousness is like to be rises and all court close higher authorship of higher your prayer is not only just about you all of humanity is with do not watching the media you and Amy are putting out.

The condition, not every fact that in every way and we might not become aware that an recap. I tell them three rating is not burning out.

United physicians were burning out where looking to signs all the time and your showing can be anchored in time, but you can have the power of the heart's a human being. So these people just by knowing that someone had good intentions over them were able to increase her self compassion and integrate self gratitude like you from peace in Arizona which will cook once I know you looking to become aware that you, this is what are called yield you mean there's a continuum Everywhere. Any field that accounts for you. The field is not electromagnetism you are creating in effect old time energy deals back formation. Well, well, something Amy tell me more plow energy fields. I feel like because we were made in the image of Christ. Each one of us and the kind of the kind of don't like if we have positive energy is contagious and other people feel good about. I seen it I seen this happen just by having a positive attitude and it it's contagious in that's what I what I mean is that each one of us know when about when we say the word energy in my book I talk about right can actually don't mention energy. I was just get in energy calorie threat, and when I reached information more fundamental information and energy are intertwined intimately related energy and information.

What you create is the source of energy and information is more fundamental what information are you going to create today what is your intention holding today and had consequences on energy use no more energetic and we all want more energy anyway. Not thinking more healthily.

Your intention that information, you old high is incredibly powerful and hard informational and correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't your intention lead to everything else, your accents, you still feel I clarify annoyed by your motivation when he said to me, meditate, he wanted me to clear out my inner noise in annoyed any okay you get to know your help out. Sorry you still meditate and you notice the difference. One unit take away from it on your spiritual practice can be contemplating the Bible is sorry, praying the rosary prayers, like meditation, many spiritual tools that find one you really think about it. A paragraph from my book to learn about Tiller. However, because he is incredibly powerful inquiry. I feel fine, where Tiller got power power. I didn't understand if I could explain it.

I would be adding something to the knowledge people have about the power of intention in you reading book you feel world power and will work and having to work in your life and around you so much Dr. Manning for being with us. If each stand again. For more information. Thank you so much it's it's not anything information think you are more information on duct and the semantic and how work can be found in God's acute.com hundred guests honey bookmaking sciences.

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