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August 4, 2018 12:58 pm

Andy Bowersox, Steve Repak, and Mario Freitas

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Pursuits where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into the kingdom pursuits now live from the truth. Your host Robbie Gilmore. I am so blown away by what God bring here the Truth Network to share with you guys and today is one of the days that I'm just, like, oh my goodness I can't believe the Lineup I have for you.

You just to be so blessed. I think they hear what all is going on in so many diverse ways. As you know, often he gives me people from really really different ways that God has given them a passion and using it to build the kingdom and this is one of those days is like super powerful but super diverse at the same time and first off, I got a chance this week my friend Larry George.

We talked about last week with slow missionary homes took me to the more international prayer breakfast that happened in Burlington and all my soul.

These folks are working with the persecuted church and what God is doing through this ministry will I just think it's going to take your breath when you hear the stories I think you to be so glad that you find out silly things about the first persecuted church that my first guest is Mario and I might try his name is from Brazil. As it freezes. Yes, sounded wow that's first time I ever got everything a very good Mario, how cool you are raised in Brazil. Yes, born and raised, but you ended up going to China was a missionary in China for about four years and have been serving the persecuted brothers and sisters all over the world measure to be here and I know you're gonna be blessed on your socks by what he is going to bring to you today but also with me is my dear friend and fellow friend of Larry George George Larry or listing unit unity and you kick how this handy Bowersox, but Andy the way that we came to know Andy and you can find that my is that Larry George used to have a radio show. It came on at 12 o'clock. Actually it was called a place missionaries call home and one day this is 10 years ago or so. He had the idea that he wanted to do a reality show. Kinda like the Nelson survivor what everybody wanted to deal with missionaries and self defined these three missionaries that were all being called the mission field and we are going to kinda follow them to see which one survived. Hopefully authorize value and kinda like the name of that program is a place missionaries call but the name of the of the of the series that he did. It wasn't survivor. Now I know I never, it was nice. I describe a little bit different. It was called the journey the journey. That's right. And it was it was the leader writer radio reality show about people that God is somehow transitioning from marketplace ministry into full-time Christian service. You say that you got a B in radio listen I I repeat Aslan lie about you.

That's how I repeat the story right and Larry Taylor.

If you're out there like you know we love so he is so good that I understand that on August 18 you're doing kingdom pursuits for me live if you heard about this. He's opening up his eyes like he didn't know but Stu told me that you're doing it live at an event that everybody loves to hear he is a little bit presumptuous at times that we see how that works out.

But anyway just blatantly honest. These three missionaries. One of them was being called from Africa and I think another one was being called India and then there was this guy that was going to do this recreational ministry take pastors out fishing and hunting and stuff like that about like you never need to really Larry Ward to get this guy. But oh my word what God has done in all our lives. Since then, handy, and this pray for your pastor tour is gonna be an example of what God is done through your obedience to what seemed like a crazy idea when we get into a Robbie like this is actually little bit of an emotional tour for me. Just because your you're right and it's been almost 10 years since God called us to provide at that time recreational like one to three day retreats for pastors and other ministry leaders and kingdom leaders.

We can't really Mario, but I thought it was crazy you know I thought was crazy.

You thought I was crazy. Half the world has crazy myself included, and it was just nuts, but here we almost 10 years later and God has truly given us an incredible platform to not only provide direct encouragement, refreshment, and still those recreational outings, but really to engage create awareness and enlist an army of believers across the nation that are committed to preventive care and prayer support for their passion for their other ministry leaders in the tour. Always we do as I we'll talk about that more in a bit.

And really, in a way, it's the persecuted church because if you don't think pastors or persecuted you don't know many of very well and right this minute. I feel like treat broadcasting persecuted because we got transmitters underwater were asking for prayer as we speak.

Several of our radio stations people not hearing this morning because were underwater in several locations so you know it's it's interesting Satan is persecuting all over the place Mario, but one of the places he persecutes many of us, myself, including his area finance so he rises up these wonderful folks and we have a fellow talkshow host is thievery pack is the author and the radio host of your money. God's way.

I, like that title to the yeah is because we all have gifts in overall different bodies of Christ and I were know we need to use those gifts to further God's kingdom in the night, as I just felt moved to do that because exam left the Army or $32,000 in credit card debt and no one you know no one taught me about finances and it was until I got out of finances got open the door and he ran helping other people with their finances.

This person still had $32,000 in credit card debt in excess is one of the things that we struggle as Christians in God expects us to be good stewards and expects the use our gifts and talents and things that data to further his kingdom likes is we just live a more joyous life that we you know it was continue to listen to the lies of the world say that we had had the big house the new car. The gray close to be happy and joyous and those things are or what actually keeping us from from Christ. Interestingly and coincidentally but not coincidentally, if you knew my story. The whole reason I'm here before you this morning is because the night God showed up when I was praying and said Rob you want to get on the radio and talk about what breaks your heart every day and he knew that I was a cardio and that I was putting people in stupid amounts of debt and it broke my heart every day that I was doing it, and often I would even tell the people you really good stuff as I'm looking at your financials and mysticism makes sense and understanding the trap that is set for you by the world and whatever is a big reason I feel like God had me here at this, but it led to wonderful opportunities with Andy and now Mario and and and so it's really cool that we have the show today and and we have a lot in common Steve but it is kingdom pursuits and my producers gone. Rob, you got to get your jokes that comes in the listener. Just yesterday, so Robbie in our favorite part of keeping of Saturday morning is when you tell your stupid joke that I am leaving the riser to characterize my jokes and stupid is unbelievable and I only have a minute but I will try to do what I can so speaking of the church because this is all about the church today. Did you know a pear shaped like a church bell sort of appealing parish and I'll know if you knew this but the church lawyer did some cross-examining and in the Episcopalian church bearing cannons cannot be defrocked, and fired the priest Catholic Church was very stern during his service last Sunday.

That's when he realized he was experiencing critical mass. It's hard when you're this is all about you Andy critical mass. You can have that in the course our church welcomes all denominations, but we prefer 20s and 50s I can finish it down so I got it. Then Jasper just of seconds we got left. Here's the griddle. The church is meant to rock your world manner speaking. So who is your favorite rock star in the Bible, the church was meant to rock your world. So who is your favorite rock star in the Bible you call then we got Steve's book for you your money. God's way. 866-34-TRUTH 87884. Your favorite rock star and I'm talking rock in the Bible 866-34-TRUTH 87884 I got it then recalls some torquing the proceeds to kingdom person takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom and today were so blessed to have Mario freed us from more international they are equipping the persecuted church worldwide working a lot from him as well as anti-Bowersox and is pray for your pastor tour. He just got back.

He was so excited for Robbie. Can I come minutes I will man please. We would love to hear what happened on his road trip, which I love her and then Steve repacked were so blessed to have summary from Charlotte you know we we have our stations in Charlotte. We don't get enough people on from Charlotte, so Steve worked really glad to have you here from Charlotte yet. It is an honor and Alex's about less than hour and 1/2 drive is waiting clear my mind has some quiet time with the Lord. And is it there. Listen to my Bible app on the on the way over here but like this.

This is not as Christian Carter knobs II you are him a little later it's like a sleep I really glad I really really really glad and he's the host on is it Jesus radio which just uses radio it's out to Gaffney, South Carolina the Internet radio listeners throughout the year of drought, the US internationally and I do a show comes on Tuesdays at 11 AM and so that I joy something I felt that I got called to do that you might my real life jobs.

I manage high net worth individuals and in God just put in my heart that he and he wasn't.

He put me on earth to sit there and just help you notice people's money with with their money is but is to help people that don't have money. Those are ones that are really really struggling and just like me like that left only 32,000 author credit card debt and I wasn't giving like I was supposed to. I wasn't being a good steward my financial resources I was stressing the worry night. Have a joyous life and I iconic figure out the secret is that you are the people that had the people had more Mentos date they just did the opposite of everybody else. Leah called it the 10 1080 rule is that you know you give 10% you say the next precedent.

10% you live off the rest in his Lexuses is nothing is not rocket science is no magic formulas that are out there is just changing the changing your mindset and likes it to be more the steward that you own this stuff is that God is let you borrow it and ill eat he expects you to protect the manager probably could because these were taken from now and as you can see Steve is been gifted now to be able to share that in so many different ways. But right now I'm just seriously shocked that none of my listeners have called in with their favorite rock star in the Bible are you shocked I actually I actually thought that was one of the easier ones that you put out there. I will be hard to get that wrong.

I think what it would be impossible to please and I know how 866 really 866-34-TRUTH 87884 and Mario share a little bit more of your story of what happened when you went to China. As you know, you thought well okay God called me to China to be a missionary had little some different for you. Oh yes, this story is actually my same Mike calling to the suffering church to serve brothers and sisters of the persecuted church so it all happened back in 99 I went to China as a missionary. I was serving with you to the mission, which is I believe that the largest mission organization on the planet. Still, if you ask me and I was basically doing college ministry there.

I was really happy with the results in an old sharing Jesus all over the place with this this day. One day I was in this town of the western part of China and I had a team doing college ministry there with me and I was walking in the streets at night so I store actually have a picture. The guy there for you that he did like some art stuff with wire. How do you describe that kind of as a framing yeah it's art with wire that's a sculptor so yeah wireline filter. Very cool Chinese worst. Yeah, they had like Chinese characters from the hanging of the law when Dragon step very Chinese like, but I saw the fish of Christianity that symbol that we have here in cars, and I know that that doesn't mean a lot to the Chinese and I was looking outside the window just looking at the fission of the call my attention, so he comes from inside the store and he asks me and in Mandarin might might my Chinese is pretty broken. Back then I was is there for like six months of an essay and he asks me, are you part of the fish that was his question. Are you part of the fish. I think they they believe every foreigner is Christian could be a quick and I said yes I am part of the fish invited me to the store called his daughter.

He lived right behind the store's daughter spoke some English and long story short, he invited me to go to church with him next day we were not even supposed to last me because we know that the persecuted church hides in China.

The underground church foreigners can be followed.

That was back in 2001 essay the year 2000 so, but I went. I really felt my heart I need to see this in.

I didn't know much about the persecuted church back then so I met him at his sword and next day he drove us 40 minutes out of town.

It was he and his wife, myself, and his daughter in the sit in the back.

Then he pulls to the shoulder of the road, hides his cart under a bush and hazards walk for another 30 or 40 minutes into the woods.

If I was by himself but by myself with him. I would be scared by his family was there so is okay and we just walked. I didn't see anybody.

I didn't see any cars you see any houses. Anything just to know green just trees.

Then we get to this building this old building. Probably a brick factory or something when he opens the door. There are more than 200 Christians worshiping in their all of them came from the same town. They drove their cars. They hid the present behind bushes the same way. There was no electricity. There is no sound system. They were just praising the Lord. I was in no so happy to be there and then the service happened that that the young go the man's daughter she was translating some of it for me. This is the real thing on it. I want to tell you after 30 minutes we were there in the service. The Holy Spirit you know just present.

I could just a few that that worship at atmosphere. Just amazing. Dan the past invites upfront to families. One family was a man in his 50s. His wife, his son college age son and his teenage daughter second family young couple with a baby. The two families come up front. Family number one, they looked very sad. Devastated and I'm bad with facial expressions, but that caught my attention like the deer said second family.

They were happy, joyful, new carry a baby so I'm thinking this is a moment of the service that the pastor pray for families. Family number one probably lost a deal one day, looked sad.

Family number two are probably gonna prefer the baby dedicate the baby. Some like that. I asked the girl she said no. This is the Bible's ceremony and I was what what this you mean by the Bible ceremony I noticed that the family number one is holding a Bible.

So that man the men of the first family.

He started speaking in his first sentence actually made me really confused. He said this week was the best week of the history of our family but they didn't look like that. They look sad and he said because the word of God do well in our house. I didn't know what he was talking about and he goes on I didn't go to work my wife to go to work. My kids didn't go to school, my boy is the best reading the house so he would read out loud for us. We would start very early in the morning to the evening. We would eat in front of the Bible we wouldn't stop in one week we read the Bible from Janet from the whole New Testament in the Old Testament, from Genesis to Joshua. We did that in the week. The reason we why we are sad is that we know that by the church size and the roster here it's gonna take us about a year for the word of God to dwell in our house again so that's when I realized that the community are 200 they had to buy was one for the church for the passage prepare sermons in the other one for the church to share around in.

That was the day I I cried a lot dead like as is the day when I got saved in no I have nine Bible sitting my house in Hong Kong that I barely use that study Bibles that are used for sermon prep and had one barber that actually use everyday right there just sitting there. I felt guilty. I felt filthy.

I felt like that this is wrong in our business is not right that my brothers and sisters that have access to the most valuable thing that I I don't even think it's that valuable my perspective the, the Bible, so that became my my thing that day in now.

I work for more international trying to inspire people to accurately) even more international with anymore like I gave your vision. A man in persecuted church a man.

Yes, that would equip them, which is the mission of more international and so many different ways for her to get to that, but interestingly talk about emotional experiences. We don't have much time, and the but you can maybe begin to take us where God taken you this week the last month or so. What what I was referring to earlier.

You know it is crazy to think about how we got started on his recreational trades to really being a catalyst in an engaging in what we call a gun army of believers that are committed and little over five years ago that was part of our vision to be able to travel to all 50 states to speak for radio to speak to churches to to just engage in a remnant, at least in all 50 states of people that are committed to preventive care and prayer support.

As you know Robbie, the cofounder ministry Dave and he passed away early this year and I'll only just come back to it after the break is truly a significant amount of one-on-one talk about that was very interesting that home-going feel sorry to hear about that.

The great news is we have George and both have answers to rockstar questions to hear from them with pursuits where we hear how God or passion were so glad by the way that you tuned in as we can hear some more about how God gives these amazing people today are passionate how God uses that to build the kingdom and we get to hear about it and see about it right here in beautiful downtown Winston-Salem. This amazes me every week just international stuff going on across the country. All sorts of cool stuff. But right now I want to about these rock stars in the Bible and I got George is in Durham Georgia renting a pursuits tell me about your favorite rockstar about a year reading it will never admit that how cool Nebuchadnezzar now that guy was a rockstar, as I don't know many people eat grass and it could still come out and and write a whole chapter in the Bible that gets canonized in everything you know you you know that's interesting thing that the Bible are obviously God held Nebuchadnezzar and really high instead that he was the head of gold.

According to Daniel and you know there's a lot of interesting thing is working to find out about Nebuchadnezzar so I'm loving your rockstar George, I think you picked a winner and you know that that the fact that he was that old you know vision that Daniel had his car like he was a rock you know yeah thank you George God bless.

I'm so glad you called into the glare of what you did win and you get this wonderful book. Six weeks money challenge so monies coming your way.

I can see that's going on.

God blessed. Thanks. Are we got cannas in Colfax.

I know Kim wasn't thinking maybe he was thinking Nebuchadnezzar, but there are more answers.

There are more answers to rockstar's in the Bible and you're welcome to call in at 866-34-TRUTH 87884 but when we left our hero and the EE were telling us you know this. This was a different year for you guys so you know we just finished up our tour and I started to tell you is about five years ago, Dave and either the cofounder of our ministry begin discussing know the these bus tours like what is it like you talked about a vision of their grade for the great Mario was time is more, in essence, a vision that God gave him right there, right in and for us the vision of like wrapping this old bus and turn it into a pray for your pastor tour.

I was thinking light was that even mean you know will equip that look like, but just got open doors for us to visit churches to go through the studios like this to engage audiences and and and sort of the way that works is only travel through an area will do interviews like this and say would you like to stop and visit your pastor we've got some gifts we get some encouragement on drop-off and people call in and they tell us and we serve GPS and Google were there acting as we have time we we just visit those churches on the way and so so anyway it was it was truly a nationwide endeavor is a five-year plan.

So this summer we pulled into Oregon and that was the last of the lower 48 states that we had not visited yet in that big bus which pretty monumental idea of its dome was 20 years old, but that thing just like rides on the wings of faith and prayer right there and stays cool air conditioner pretty, pretty much, so I know if I told you that that story of the event. But you know it's just when we fought I had to stop and take a picture of that organ sign and think five years ago did we ever really think that this is going to happen that we would truly reach every state in our nation and not just one-on-one, but through the airways and through through pulpits and platforms able to continue to grow this and so it's sort left me thinking like I wish they were still here. You know your customer. Earlier this year and I was used to hearing to be part of that but external of me thinking what's next now, right leg like to know what's next and we got we got a lot of a big challenge of big vision a lot to do as you guys know there's always way more to do than there is time on resources like that anyway so that was it was a super super experience unique experience related to take evidence of it is in an it's kind of a amazing thing when I sit back and see you know how is goddess is spread that from you know if you go it's really because each shooting day at the farm they give you the kingdom. Pursuits.com. By the way, you can find more about Steve Booker. You can find out more about more international, but you don't see there is pictures of Randy's tour. There and and one of the places that he stopped was with Chris rolloff it in the knowingly and and there's a picture criticism for either one of the truth.

Broadcasting station managers cross country and and and and that is a huge deal for Chris know it's like it's a classic example of a pastor not know were coming okay but we will into their transaction Sunday morning visit right there big bus and and there's something encouraging to people just will even see that come in the parking lot I met a pastor somewhere along the eye.

I think he's actually locally here but he said you know the first time I saw that bus. He says all he could say was praise God that somebody is speaking on our behalf right there is so many times our pastors are leadership. There may have not seen this, but I got it described how well this thing is it's a mobile home.

He calls it a bus. It's a mobile home, but it has a gigantic gigantic pray for your pastor tour written on it in black and white you can't see, so there's no question when you come within half a mile of this bus a course if you been an advantage for events.

It's always park the golf tournaments and always different places, but is if you can imagine your cross, you know, Nevada and if you cross Nevada lately there's not a lot out there and also you look over and you see this gigantic pray for your pastor and your pastor sit in the body. Got a congregation at 20 and here comes this bus landed in your you know and you can see the smiles on the people's faces in like manner somebody out there that there is a church and end in getting to that right III think Steve's vision was right.

You can reach the whole body as these people reached out to you for this ideas about finances. It was about the church you know finances is one of those things that kinda keep us from from God is one of our stumbling blocks, and it's like it's we think that that had monies going to provide us safety is to provide us happiness and that that can only come from God and Knox's. We just have a skewed of vision on on what money actually is and is my job excise want to help people know experience a better life to attend to be able to serve God works is what we do our finances because of you. If your finances are a mess.

You not to be a good spouse you not going to be a good Christ follower you're knocking to be a good worker amusement have all the stress.

But if we can sit there and get a finances in yellow in an order, you will going to be a better spouse will be a better friend. We can beat you know we can serve God better. That's what it comes down to is that we just don't want that extra stress on us that that's hindering our relationship with God and Internet hindering our ability to serve God like that that he wants us to. This is so cool to me and and knowing a little bit about your story is God comforted you through your own financial stress so that you could then comfort others.

You an instant.

Certainly, we thank you for your service in the military which came back you know they they obviously weren't teaching in the military how to deal with these things and so you wrote a book for people in the military you originally my first it was a dollars and uncommon sense basic training for your money. You had the biblical principles in it, but it looks at him.

Something that I wanted to give back because I doubt you'll I deal with wealth builders and I know what the secret is in the secret is not working harder along versus getting your priorities are right and it deals with sacrifice the same traits that learned and in the military, they do so that is almost like it.

It's almost like biblically because you talk about sacrifice and putting others before you and just being accountable and in and taking charge and just up as it has nothing to do with smartness. Everything will cost you deal finances. You must be great in math is definite it is really nice. It's dealing with the hatemongers. I'm hoping everybody sees Christ you know I just blast out of my mind that you know God bless you with this vision. This is how you you do this and and you have the courage and you walked out in faith to write two books start a radio show to do all the things which by the way, are not a source of income. I merely write these books so he could get money in these books to give back. You know, I don't see Andy getting rich out there, but God gave you this vision of the of this pray for your pastor tour and then he blessed you on this adventure that was just unbelievable and Mario you don't take us a little bit you know the next thing you know you're in Iraq and Iran, and you're really dealing with some persecution like you really had no concept of yes but still there's joy. If you look at Mario's eyes. If you can see them if you can see the smile on his face. You got all my word, it could not have been those places he could not have seen those things yeah well the perspective is that when we talk about the persecuted church we we usually unite my prospectively make a a few mistakes. One of them is to relate to them as them, but the persecuted church is out there and no and we are the stable church of this side where the free church and let's pray for persecuted brothers and sisters. Let's give to persecuted but there there there reality outside of eyes. They are 215 million persecuted Christians in the world and it's a phenomenon that will never got to ask. In fact, biblically, there is one church of Christ. So I'm being persecuted if if my brothers being persecuted in Sudan or some of these countries you mentioned or in central Asia that's that's against me. I suffered the Bible tells me to do that the member is the member suffers a body suffers with it. So that is one church and on the other hand, these brothers and sisters, if you ask me.

They are the best Christians I know is not that we are ranking Christians are there.

We are competing but they are the real deal and the love the Lord and inspire me and that's why I do this they enjoy that when you just heard of this. These people just reference for the word of God is unbelievable. I mean the joy that's there and all those things and be able to testify that so we got not enough time in one segment to cover all that these wonderful cats have a sore hoping you'll stay tuned. We got so much more to cover in such a short welcome back to how God takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom. We are so amazingly blessed to have with us today. Mario freed us with more international, equipping the persecuted church worldwide, which is we just discovered is me your persecuted on persecuted boy are we getting persecuted got some stuff to hear Orlowski to blow your mind any Bowersox with energized ministry and he's taken up the prayer for your pastor, the persecuted ones in your congregation like yourself in semi-different ways and Steve repack. He is the author and radio host of your money. God's way, his book six-week money challenge written as sort of a biblical response to do what God was teaching him and I would point out that if you go to kingdom pursuit stock only.

We hear my hilarious stupid jokes, but you will find there links to Steve's book more international pray for your pastor tour all these different things in different ways that you can pray. There's also couple different resources that will make you aware of one is that I do a devotion every week in a nursing home and I put my stupid jokes together as well as wonderful, inspiring story so that you can print them off and you can share my stupid jokes at a nursing home near you absolutely I love it and it's one of the most popular things that I do actually is.

People go to that website and print off those jokes and then go share them with people that need to laugh, and we all need to laugh and and it's amazing thing and they're all devotional ready you want. You don't have to worry if you go to Robbie's you know resources that you won't find anything. You can't share with anybody.

So kingdom pursuit stock, do that but speaking of prayer. One of the things that really touched me. Tuesday was Mario shared prayer needs around the world and is all about prayer.

If you been around any much as freeze needs and the ministries in he heard from God. That's reason Steve's in the ministries in he heard from God we get a chance to talk to God and he won an unbelievable honor that is as we find out about the persecuted church we have a chance to share and so Mario you shared some prayer needs at this blew my mind. The one young man 16 years old. Can you tell that will bit.

Oh yeah, sure. Well that was in the country of central Asia. I met his family and that I never met the kid himself does it when I was with them.

He was in jail with adults.

They don't have like a special program or anything. He was 16 and he was just arrested with everybody else.

The reason why he was in jail is that he share the gospel with another kid at his school.

When I met his parents the same way you said I look happy today. They look happy when I talk to them and they told me about their kid being prison. The only son being in prison and I asked more information to so well. We are actually missing our son Maria said that he's there, but we are happy that he is doing what God called him to do because they've been torturing him in prison with need those under his fingernails for him to break an L4 for him to deny faith and they can go anywhere and more than 130 man already got saved because he won't break so I am hearing this, I really I hired and 36 people were saved as a result of a 17-year-old boys prison faith yes and in the country that I want say the name by it that the amazing fingers I really think he's back home now. He's they went to another country.

They had to flee their country. They can stay there anymore because it's it's not safe for them so that they not in another country and he is with his family really believe he was released from jail was that nobody else in Saved anatomy because he was sharing the gospel just by the way he he lived and so those are the people we work with. We pray for. We serve them in different aspects of really depends on the need of the persecuted Christians in some locations they need to be resettled in a different country because persecution is the it's just unbearable to stay where they are in other countries.

They need solutions for self-support so will micro finance in a country like Sudan. I say that a lot in the north of Sudan.

Accretion cannot be employed by a Muslim by law will do, close down the business. The Muslim get in trouble even if he likes that the Christian dies so the church is unemployed. So we bring a micro finance so that they can have their own businesses in the start and have their support. So it's tailored around the need to know. Sometimes it's just Iran. How many locations you are you know we are in width directing 23 countries but out of 11 base location so for instance, are our main work in the me the lease right now is out of Jordan have a big B's and Jordan working with directly creations and people that come from Syria because of the war you know and but we are also in Lebanon just started a new base in Mosul, Iraq. Just one of the church is that these Islamic Street.

This Islamic state destroyed. We remodeled it and is a community center now and in the church so that the Jordan Bays takes care of five or six different countries in that area and we do that in the location shoot. And so, speaking of prayer and the you you just got back you know what what are some prayer needs that stand out in your mind of things that her listeners could be praying for for churches that you visit your Torah jokingly came back in the break about capacity in the persecuted but you know is more in those wasn't Diane well and I know you and you and Stephen in their graves in here but you know I always say if you're doing anything for either introducing or drawing people closer to Christ. There is a target on your back that nobody else really understands unless you're on the front lines doing that he and others that there's a host of people that would consider themselves Christians. Christ followers but really like when it comes down to it, are you putting your faith and your comfort on the line to do what God is asking you to do and if I just submitted to you. If you're not then you can't understand what the pressure and the and the spiritual attack and warfare against that really looks and feels like the manifestations of its absolutely intense if you're doing anything to draw people closer to Christ and it shows up in all kinds of different ways and we can talk about that alone of the program whole another way, but I will. I would say on just behalf of our nations pastors and in you know it's it's so obvious to me. Probably the third that we do not allow them a level of transparency to share this if you know what my family is hurting from marriage is hurting. I got to have get you know financial problems legally like there's like the custom-designed failure packages that Satan brings against our leadership will run the gamut of relationship stress, financial stress, health, stress in a you name it and they're just weed. We really need to be able to say Pastorino to sure is how can we be praying. This, in essence, they are not gossipy in a condescending way, but in a sincere way. We recognize that God is using you. Therefore, we know that that Satan is after you and we want to stand in the gap to fill in for you right yeah amen I would say to that, and Stevens is in your ministry. I'm sure you see it you know and obviously we would we would love to encourage you and what you're doing because I there's a lot of people that are in bondage the debt you know lodges struggled, myself included, yeah, you know, is speaking at a single moms conference in Louisiana it's called life of a single mom and in this I remember this lady shoot. She ran up to me she's gone.

Mr. Steve, Mr. Steve, you know, can you help me and I think to myself I would do anything for his labor. She was breaking down in tears. And so we we went off to the side and this is what you want.

What can I do to help you. She says was thieves.

This know has three kids and in and every night I have to go out the strange man so my kids can eat and I just thought to myself on my guiding of what is his lady actually having to do to feed her kids and just really puts things in perspective that there's a lot of people that they're out there her and then as you just don't ever realize because were stuck in our in our little bubbles and is only when we leave that deadbolt. Can we really experience you know what what's really going on in God's expects us to do the accident comes out of the money stubs that you were my lords will build has a $40 million had one the most visible people in the whole world, but there's so many people to have less in the just so happy and Joyce because they're doing the stuff they love doing.

They love serving Christ, they love giving back in those the people that that really really experience as God's loving grace and stuff like that money is not there by happiness. It's only the give you choices. The more money you have, the more choice you have. But at the end of the day is that you know the people that are to be the most happy are the ones that going to give the most and they're going to serve the most of you believe anything else you discuss that you yourself up for a life of disappointment.

Now and I now amen. Again, I told you we were loaded for bear today and and Mario you do have some other prayer requests you could share that. I know there, on your heart. Yes, well we have a urgent requests actually it's a model of how much intercession is important in our ministry so we had this this man go to Brazil from Pakistan a while ago partner organization of ours. The descent is this case. This guy was being bitten and he was held by a terrorist group and now he's going with his whole family to Brazil as refugees in and we need to elect that paperwork to get through it's a it's a big challenging process so can share his name. Please pray for this family is a serious case that needs your prayer from Pakistan. Yes. Yes.

Again, more international.

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