Phil Lollar, Brian Jagger, Beverly Holloway, and Cecil and Boone Stokes with special guest host Ann Ault

Kingdom pursuits where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into kingdom pursuits now live from the truth. Your host Robbie Gilmore honored my name is all and Ronnie have another show called Christian car guy Ronnie that I had done at Waco unified ventures and honesty me to be a part of Christian card at the end of that. We started in 2015 and now we had a magnificently talented cast that were just finishing my 39th episode and it's a blessing and a dream come true. I can tell you that for sure but it might be somebody in the line right now that is part of that all older dream of mine and I wrong. Oh hello, my Bill Lawler your your creator. Advantages of adventures in Odyssey and he he talked about the pursuer of dream and we can have another guest on the show go bowling today, but we are able to hear about his latest book, and his latest venture and since were talking about dreams his latest dream and tell us the name of your blog. Well, he called Young with MB trader treasure about young John David Whitaker, you got a big burger show older bad baby like your board member. All the wonderful things very godly man course, a lot of people will long time ago actually will after I graded the show about more than 30 years now, but early on I wanted to figure out how can we like about I will go a day Marla… Talk about it and you know what great book. First book about all the five books. The first one is out of called Young with the trader treasure is all about the bowl about the North Carolina and all Lawler which rhymes with dollar what you getting a lot, but because it can be marvelous and and it will keep your vote of hope upload as you pursue new dream absolutely absolutely focus on the family are all will good to hear your voice. Betty, thank you so much God bless you of your new dream. They say were brave boy over there and I'm doing this broadcast Steve drain you know the Bible says don't despise the day of small beginnings, like Christian card I theater and so many other brought project we pursue our dreams noticed how God will unfold that dream one time only just take the time to hear clear and obey him, and we just do the next thing you know the dream shift will there's a reason for each season of our lives you know of a friend of mine says you gotta find out what paint before you find out what is step-by-step. He leads us to get a jeremiad. 1023 says, if not for man to direct his dad Mme. Dion.

This lady in the 1500s that many people want to direct God instead of surrendering themselves to be directed by him. They want to show the way that is submissively following where he leads and I know my guests today are going to encourage you in your dreams as you share and with them as they share how God led them to some really exciting ventures in each of their lives. In my first two guess that Beverly Holloway and Brian Jagger, and each have credit for mile-long but I'll give you details about their lives and will find out how they were led one step at a time to write where they are Beverly Holloway is an endocrine casting director who has Started in every conceivable genre of film including drama, comedy, family, faith, action ventures that want but commented to my recent favorite the movie. I can only imagine with this incredible on mom's night out magnificent but her step-by-step process that included acting and directing and not to mention her church, a wonderful husband and to further babies and additionally will be hearing him zipping along for you guys have more time to talk. We will be hearing from Brian Jagger was also the most fascinating background of the director, writer, actor, casting director and cofounder partner of casting calls America but the exciting thing to me is that Beverly and I enjoyed call. As far as I'm concern.

Ivan prayed about a fear that I know they have and I want to find out how this transpired to Beverly and Brian, welcome to kingdom there.

I am thank you so much for having having me on having us on I heard Beverly I heard laughter is a second ago but I can hear hear Jasper do we have Beverly on the line. I anyway say that with you and tell me about yourself. You know that there's so much thank you so much for coming on to kingdom.

This is welcome to live radio both.

I just love to know how did you come to the Lord, you know, I have a long story. I bet we don't have time for that. But I want to go. People who had parents that were always believers. But it wasn't a big focus but I had grandparents who were much more involved in the church and such and so I I actually when I first became of driving age used to take my my grandmother to church and really got more involved at that point because of taking her hand in finding you know the messaging from that and as someone who has had and again you know there's not enough hours in the day to talk about the up and down, but have had that as part of my life either in the background or in the forefront. And it's funny how things change when the forefront. Oh yeah, even when you claim when God takes his circuitous route and he always doesn't seem like you know and my friend said you gotta find what paint before what is and you have to go through it to get to it. Don't you that amen that what I said yeah exactly like I don't think I could ever put it any better. That is, is exactly it and we we frequently sit around our house in and around our office. If the job thing and that it's funny because I first met Beverly she used the same expression, and that it was an infant laugh because sometimes when sometimes it seems that one way or the other. It's always a God thing. Now leave me. I just because I get to God the more I really pursue him hang on him as never before, is now demonstrating that the last couple of years and have really been God boot camp for me and and just clinging to him for all I'm worth. And yet seen such miracle, great and small, and I'm wondering Ed Jasper delete will be able to get Beverly on the phone she might, but this is the second segment hello good. Well unfortunately simply evening. Brian so I'm sure Beverly will enjoy the God thing. This must be a God thing.

So here we go. Have I learned you just got to go with it yet. Got I got with the foyer and I went to Maine. Can you tell the listener what you're doing together and how did this come to be one step at a time. As is always a dream. Those are just again I probably involved in it.

You know absolutely involved in back to the God thing.

It's it's one of those where you things happen if you went back to map out how this all came to be and how serendipitous it was fighting going it would be founding clearly the parallel world. Beverly was working on thing.

I was working on things she met had an associate somebody that is not his kingdom. And I'm talking with Brian Jagger and apparently there's some technical difficulties will will blame it on hurricane Florence but anyway I'm only able to take one color at a time since I too am calling it the grandma finish up. I just want to hear Chris but we don't even know the name of this think this miracle that that you have you and you and you know your your baby individually and in you, but that Beverly on board.

II believe and tell people what is space-based casting casting.com which is a casting call listing information management website for the casting directors and producers of faith-based and family focused projects to connect with actors who are interested in being a part of faith-based project to clarify.

It wasn't my baby and then Beverly came on board. We have been called America which is a company that I cofounded having been a casting director before and my world and Beverly and I met back to the it was a God thing. Beverly and I met at at an event and it was what you do what you do and I mentioned the software company and she said it's funny that that's what you do because I have been wanting to find somebody that would be interested in in working with me to help develop the site that's really focused on this and being the fit of faith. Myself I said weekend in my life partners as well will I absolutely be be interested in doing something like that and so that was basically the quick short conversation that watched us into further conversation in it was, we have the software and the interest and the willingness to do it and she had the the of the reputation and know-how what's going on in the industry as far as the faith-based products go in and it was just this perfect merging of of efforts to make this happen in this launch and you know if you scraped my my team into my my partners to work all on board and excited to make this happen. We had to do some work to make it work for how we wanted to present it to the world and we made it happen. And I'm so proud of it so honored to have been able to make this happen. I met a Christian in media for salon to hear that you got this company faith FAI pH 8 faith casting.com and Brian. I'm a get Beverly on now that all I am so grateful for you. It's so good to talk you. Sorry for the mess up here that you can't both be on same time, but no worries. Beverly is much more interesting than I am.

Anyhow, well, helpful and amazing and we were together. Just having met her in it now be able to call her her my friend is the greatest of all.

So I'm I'm honored that that you have had me on.

Talk about a little bit about this and I'm so happy you guys get the talk more about this than thank you and talk about a God inspired project. Again I Christian EDI five from plates along for more than this, and I'm thrilled for you guys. Thank you, Brian Jagger, thank you so much and and anything you could possibly want to know that Brian Jagger you can find on LinkedIn and everywhere else that is Beverly on the phone now I'm there. I'm so excited. I'm not a happy boy. What will probably have you know they should break in about five minutes or so, but at least will get you back on the second part of the show to do a little bit of their before we cut that other guests that you might know Cecil Stokes made love and fear led Boone is adorable but I just can't really tell me tell me that you know I just listen to Brian about all this and talk about God you know is calling to development. Tell me your sightedness and and obviously what what is ahead for faith-based casting yeah it really and super nice thing to finally say I feel the same thought at conferences and workshops after there so many have a heart for four projects that are faith and fair were family centered and eat comp. But I would get the most is where I doubt projects and I've also been on the other side when working with producers who want to reach people at bay and there was no way that you know you could do a Facebook page or try to reach out the multiple Facebook page that there was no concise way to do that and in a way that was a real pool for a casting director or producer because the tools that we have existing kind of ignite it in the broad faith allows you to submit headshot and resume submitted video within the site and nothing so yeah I was adding a so randomly. A friend of a friend of a friend.

You know that an event did Brian and I were standing in the parking lot and that you know what you you and oh my God.

He told me what he did. It was like God sent me to rank for that and I appointment like exactly, that was exactly yet. In fact, that the very next day I called one of the people that I've been talking to about this and said you are not believe what just happened so no idea that God was bringing us together and that mandate and off and they completely caught the vision in alongside what I've been feeling was there a real need, and that God was really beating towards something I didn't know, and now I know that so we got down after 10. Please go ahead. Not to say, assisted me, it amazes me how God Brian I feel the last couple of years especially have been boot camp that I embrace because he does tend to defend that to where you when you have to go through to get to it.

The fears and you know that and that the suddenly the unfolding of Adrina so incredibly awesome in the truest sense of the word yeah yeah it is like when you release that yeah even finally release it from your own control in your elation. I found that when he gives it back to you. Ryan oftentimes in a way you didn't expect like it definitely looks the way you thought it was going to write the dream just the same. Better than you imagine that yeah I got over losing part.

The relief yeah a hard bargain.

Did you pray about this for years, or did God just kind of is this involved giving you where the confirmation alley was meeting by I know isn't it wonderful to finally feel like you've arrived at an answer. Yeah. Oh my gosh, it is because I'm not technological at all utilities so I know there would like got it given to me. But there was no way I could fulfill it so it hey, I don't think I don't have a clue how to do it or call her later that so it is nothing short of a miracle that we ended up in the parking lot. Brian and I together chatting and you know I could stopped and chatted with any number of people that were there that day but it was he and I talking and it really is absolutely a God thing and because I you gave me for my passion for it, but not the skill set. So he brought together the skill set when he brought Brian and I together so very you know God thing right yeah absolutely it. It just that he has done it with me to my life where I just have been stunned at end and you go along and you think you know and you just as you said putting putting it on the altar you know and and and I had just read that that quote five. Mme. Keown said you know if it will Jeremiah Kenyon is not financed directed that many people want to erect out instead of surrendering itself the direct they want to show him the way instead of lethality for healing and ET mages and specializes in humble and humility and humble consensus, humble people, you know, Jean, who went to the woman at the well, you know. Jesus wanted a drink of water and and and his ill repute woman in and out of that came this job. Yeah yeah it's a stunning God we serve and get so caught up in the struggle of the process and in the end the day by day spell and then suddenly he just appears right. Yeah, it it it really is astounding and it have to admit though we think that it would only take one. It is like this where I feel like I can never connect out again, but I got work in miraculous ways. Then sit next time were the crazy right God I don't know the weeks I have been hit by panic and and you know and no one has.

I don't let my doubt honor you.

Don't let Matt and yeah I hate to say this right can you hold on for a few more minutes on the other side and tell us again unless I had faith-based rage lived yet.

I'm here and I got a good day. I listen I just am so thrilled about your new your new dream and you and your a reputable casting director for years and all the amazing backgrounds that is. This is just marvelous faith named casting.com and is this how people can get in touch with you are, so we just launched the were in the process now of getting the word out that it does exist. So thank you very much for having today to talk about it on and so will be getting producers and other casting directors aware that over the next week and hoping for increased projects on the website you know were ramping up so I can get other people to be posting the project. As you know this project going on all the time. I currently have a couple of project on the site that you think for casting working with Alex Jenkins on the chosen TV series which is going to be an amazing I just am so excited about that and I met another project with Gary Wheeler so really wonderful things happening. And so she got a can go to the website, you will have all the information should answer all of their question that the team at faith-based.com is very communicative. While it they have questions or eat you know anything they need to know they can reach out and and someone from the team will certainly get back to himself. Yeah website for the website or is it just that faith-based testing testing that yeah faith-based.com does the website that have all of the information on. I service and then I have website if they want to reach out to me or get a hold of me directly on my website is an amazing casting.com what is it again. I'm tired for some reason you going in and out.

Oh, I'm sorry to hurt my website. I know really. My website is the H casting.com so that my annuity Beverly Holloway that Beverly Halliday.com of Beverly. Thank you so much. Any last words of that sounds ominous. The yes is the beginning of his dream. I can't tell you I really got tears because I am so thrilled for this and I just yeah not using this mightily and if you could just keep plowing through it to get to it which I know you have to do that but because the enemy won't like this but so pray for Beverly and Brian guys out there. Listeners pray for your own dream Beverly any last words in terms of just encouraging people in their dreams just that God will that God will make away a DFU left and right turn back now.

The reason our dream. You know in our dreams or his dream. So yeah he'll make away when we don't.

There is one and die that yeah just keep releasing it right giving of yeah and yeah make it beautiful and and looking for his well is supposed to say no yeah and then send their and and a lot of testing to just say yes. Oh my gosh yes there at I think you know you want to give up at times need to go. Can't happen Baker I like poses like the one to be doing that. You know I like that person way I also give my first 40 years in a palace.

The second 40 years in the desert in the last minute on another man packed up yeah yeah you Beverly Holloway am so blessed that you Brian were able to be on the day and and go hang out plenty of the day you you you you the best in people and his story the basics. I'm excited for your listed here it needs to do God's leading video.

Thank you very much bye-bye bye-bye and next on the agenda hopefully get hurricane Florence will allow my next two guest artists lethal dose and his son Boone and they are so dear to me and I shared quite a journey in their dreams coming true all table quickly. Founded tentmakers entertainment in 1999 diesel is an executive producer, writer, producer, director. He has worked on over 500 cable television shows the network that is any court TV DIY SP at ESPN's Food Network agency so all this stuff and credible the people United States Helen Turner television programming. He won multiple awards including the New York festival the communicator awards dozens of television and MES player short film diesel that was just amazing.

Award-winning documentaries include a man named Pearl. Children of all ages is ALSO cocreated and produced the feature film October baby. Most recently he's written produced record of 100 branded entertainment budget network and so on. But in 2015. This made me cry. I will tell you at length. Is that what you said but Cecil adopted his son Boone from foster care at the age of eight years old. We learn firsthand the beautiful and the brutal of raising a son from foster care to Cecil and Travis 13 countries, 46 state walk the red carpet live with felt like a dream life. Cecil says his life and again until the day he became sorry he became a father with new awareness of the great needs we have for the adoption of legally free foster children, Cecil and his son created Boone and the ministry that travels the country sharing the story as well as educating churches and adoption welcome finally to kingdom persist. Cecil and Brown thank you could hear your voice for TV and radio one of a kind for sure and I just love you. We are, we were divinely created to be together all your so much alike.

One yeah all: myself a lot to be clever and funny have a huge heart and so the light of my life beautiful racing to help hundreds and hundreds of thousands only reason Jasper my phone is going in and out so I don't know if it's my phone or something but anyway this is on it for that and will tell me how did the Lord lead you to adopt the child and I remember the Holland process and then I will. I want to hear from Boone and share that as well just go for it. How well I have known from college to college was 25 years ago, but I always wanted to adopt biological children Wyoming dated women who wanted to adopt. Also, about four years ago a relationship almost probably once you got woman and when you ask… Mild, to be young enough to enjoy my my children write you neatly said yes. I dropped the carpet and the carpet.

I four weeks in a row every Sunday for four weeks to receive fine.

I would like all gift for God that I could and I wish you the foster care classes you got my seven month less than two weeks later 08-year-old were found got my doorstep writing for my home even though viewpoints go away for college. You may narrowly go. Yeah, I know why my phone when storm I there were here. Okay, good. I'm so sorry for some is another time and again. But anyways the keep going. The last thing you just said what I will go back to where we are now would now be together for three years this past spring God lead us to create me, which, as you said of the ministry where we travel across the country.

Any church or group you want to invite to speak with them.

We can either help them find the need for foster care or adoption.

Ministry or if I already have a foster care or adoption ministry. We can help increase report when we were just real words absolutely thrilled you started our speaking engagements and natural and I'm so proud of him and excited today that you are your first radio show little bit but technically, but we do. We must listen uptight and then I have to share with the listeners is that you guys brought me this year. I have never been for some reason will. Maybe this is deeply affected by you and especially on Valentine's Day to hear you premium unexpected Haifa heart box of chocolates and I am forever fan of yours.

It was just so precious and and then Boone had a headache and and I I just automatically because I do pray for people and I I put my hand on his head and it still touches me that he said it felt better. The minute you put your hands on my head that showed me so much about his faith level. You keep he has great faith in you spiritual gift showing 11 years old you stop Starbucks.

During will find you naughty boy you Holland will come back to Cecil and the we will be right back kingdom that uses it further and BOBBY Gilmore were talking with people about many things, adoption 3.1 heavily abused and neglected and in three years. He was tall and different foster every Fremont' because they couldn't handle having it was just crazy to be excused, but I wanted your Buddha moment to speak and let you all know what your goal is to me yet. I tell my all to get all the foster care and help absolutely, absolutely. So that is your goal, and you've lived through it having you see you have lived through it so you know what you're talking about yet is that you know and I have seen you and I think you're great faith in the Lord. Did you did you ever give up on the dream of being adopted.

Yes, I do think that an eclectic that Albert must've been very very sad sometimes right Boone yet. Why, when did you find the Lord. How did you find the Lord while white family. One day when I really found it was like my yeah I know he loves the Lord and I take walks together and and you know you God has this, like all the suffering that you've been through Boone all that suffering. God is good and around so much for good because there's going to be so many other kid. You understand that now that you don't you and you and I see you and Cecil together and it really is seriously awesome in the truest sense of the word how you guys are just so for each other as father and son you I mean it is perfect miracle is that and it is for both of you, I mean an extent that people I mean you you are you you are so precious. Hannah knew the whole time, but it seems like that suffering of the testing aspect that we all have to go through to get to it right right you guy and I will tell you this week I saw the vision that the eight years before being with in my arms. He was born. We got together. He knew you that we would fall in love with each other and we fall in love with Christ and that we would give our lives to be able to help other children how what we and honestly when when when I see you guys. I again when you can play the best flight was so magical that day to talk about the heart so magical when you brought that magical heart box of candy that I you could follow us. You don't find it a lot. You could feel got light and love and joy and peace and around inside God hobble around and I know you because you think the Lord is because you seek it when were desperate and innocent as we get up and in our pursuit of things.

But when we are desperate in life and I were listening and we want to speak God don't just think that it's like destiny and I will fill you and we have the week. It's when we can give the most are not distracted by all. I bought chocolate to my neighbor did not because I wanted to know how to be a true gentleman and I will tell you what I heard you showing we talked about the boot camp right now, God brought me in my 45 years I have had to be very recognizable Call them that you think both of them last around three years. But the thing that happened came off the bench was the most miraculous thing that ever happened in my. All told, you and everyone or if you are on the bench. God is just preparing away you stay faithful you with and be obedient you will award you will reward you will be yet he will and I love that we have the least get some that God does strip us of of anything that's going to going to get in the way of what he wants but where he has a going you know you post such wonderful updates on Facebook at your life together in the past this has got to be Hans.

I think the point guards broke antimony you know you want to be followed.

Want to come speak with yes we are right now working on Ashley's role children and a couple of adult and started you know we started creating yet. I think everything you've spoken will come to fruition, it will will and Boone. You pretty well what would you say to people out there who might be going very sad times, or even kids out there that feel like they have nothing to lift or even sometimes in what would you say that inflating all the downline I like my. Now why he trying to get I want everyone out yelling that that is cool I will you what we want to go be a blessing yeah and then the bell called the crazy spelling call galaxy quest that they never get out.

Never surrender with you yet were only a few blocks away. Thank you so much. What would you say it to wrap up in terms of encouraging people out there to adopt. Oh my goodness, there are around 100,000 children who are legally there are over 300,000 Christian churches. One family every three Church of God of the child. You know that America will I do want you to pray and ask the board if you can fill the bedroom in your house with a child because you will make your life you live, you will fulfill what God taking care of widows in their distress, and it will will make you so so I was 42 years old, arrived. I was on my knee begging God for 42 more years of my life could not walk and had been given everything before.

And now he's my only thing well know you mean you are both so precious to know you know you were here.

I love you to the moon and back like that love you to the SON and I is they do it so funny because I just love you guys and we don't get that often, but when we do is magical because God is very sick for two or three gathered there is the Internet that I say amen to what you're saying you know I want to know anyway I listen to the word God is leading you to sell for holding onto your dream. Thank you guys so much. So grateful to Byron guest Beverly Holloway Ryan Jagger as well as Cecil South and is the love and those thank you for joining us today was your passion and show you that you need to fill the dream you can't let the rest of your day