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The Church is Being Shakin' Part 2

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July 25, 2021 4:00 pm

The Church is Being Shakin' Part 2

Man Talk / Will Hardy and Roy Jones Jr.

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July 25, 2021 4:00 pm

Welcome to Man Talk, with your Hosts Will Hardy and Roy Jones Jr. Will and Roy continues sharing and discussing clips of Dr. Tony Evans at the NRB Convention last month. All clips are from The YouTube video from Dr. Tony Evans at the National Religious Broadcaster's Convention 2021.

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This is the Truth Network welcome to man talk brought to you by T8 W CM is talking and walking Christian men's ministry where they are devoted to breaking down the walls of race and accommodation challenging men to take their God assigned as our host will Hardy and Roy Jones Junior, a black guy and a white welcome listener and menuing with this dynamite message you know when a when I thought they could dynamite. Of course I think JJ from good time for a business. It is dynamite. It is, it is all buyer uneasily that would speak to this real quick guys on this idea is a place in the supplemental insert and see that yesterday did I put new emphasis on Donald my eyes that don't like these two. But you know this message listeners. It's it's so good it's so rich with with content and if you really listen to what how God is blessing through Dr. Evans, which he gave in last month at the national broadcasters convention. He he really hit the homerun. He hit the nail on the head. However, you want to say it Roy it's it's I listen to it several times. Yeah I live for the like you had thought through Poltava Silver that we decided uses clips in the if you didn't hear last week, so go back and pick up last week showed this week's even even more intense. He really is the last segment is going speak on that with so will be heard in about 1520 minutes. Unbelievable.

Got a cup sex at a time when we go in the multiset of the first clip fence will end the first one Roy he's going to talk about that that we fail to manifest Christ in the culture.

That's sort of like the central theme of this clip that you're going to hear, so let's listen and it will come back with some commentary being dismissed ripping marginalized critique and criticize the very word is followed in the disrepute, not because we don't believe the Bible, but because the presence that we are to be having because of the Bible has not been manifest in the culture as the creator designed to be. We have become the outcast, but not because were being persecuted only from faith we being persecuted for our foolishness. This problem of race should never have been allowed to save itself in the church of Jesus Christ. Generation after generation after generation a man today.

Roy mean to tell you when it should have never in it. The picture but we know that type of mentality.

Of course, is so like for span and just came down through the generations, but it was never broken by a generation so a generation that that followed that they never will. Woke up, you know, to the realism that you are not pushing this race card.

What we're doing is Willis talking to you about what Jesus Christ said what the apostle said, and how God is moved through the church in order for us to become the people that we are today.

If we are living, living according and walking according to the truth whether race card to his point should never been never been played should never been implement. Will I guess that's the difference folks we see it today and who knows, I'm sure they had the same conversations we know about all the people that were trying to make a difference through the generations.

The folks it is time it truly is time for us to say enough is enough, enough is enough for all those of us that falls in Christ are one body abuts the same. We have one spirit, the Holy Spirit resides in this there is no separation. We should be showing what it looks like we talked about this before where we should be.

We should be the model to the world but were not because we've allowed it to creep into the church will allow the church to build their theology around it with well behaviors as he talked about two to demonstrate different than what the word says were just not unified as followers of Christ not letting the Holy Spirit lead our lives like we talked about leadership and race and it's when you plant the seed it's going to inevitably create bitterness and hatred.

It is going to because what what happens is we start listening to society and we stop listening to God. And so now society becomes our theology and what we do is we allow this society theology to impregnate us if you will, or plant a seed and all of a sudden these things begin to get manifested so we should not be using grace as an excuse but we do because we don't understand scripturally how God wants to move through us in order to show love to individuals who may have treated you wrong or treated ancestry was wrong and all these things. It is not the fact that these things didn't happen and we shouldn't talk about them, but what we're doing is when we start aligning our theology with them. This is this is what he he is trying to say when you allow link yourself or align yourself theologically with political parties, with with issues regarding race, and these things that creates division because ultimately we say why don't we just stop talking about it, but on the other hand, we need to be talking about it so see we get off into this. This is my point of view. Roy, this is your point of view.

And now we've gotten away from the word of God because were so focused on my point of view and trying to get another person to understand. It was something. It will at some point you could refer to you as a black man referring to Ms. Whiteman when I try to describe you to somebody the first words out of her mouth should not be is a black guy and then beyond that, it should be. Will Hardy is my friend, is the guy that that radio program with these is 99 years old, you know, that sort of description best to be what I should be using it just confirms not that I maybe setting with S to the point. It's got to start somewhere will and when we when we don't start breaking those kind of things we still allow those fund companies continued race always plays into it.

So in a in this program makes people back when he got black entertainment network, you talk about us your segregating a group of people your say okay this is that doubt into this group of people without 25 years ago for 30 years ago when there was no commonality there was no equality related to ability to be on TV and all the things some some that makes sense. But today surmised that if I say enough is enough.

Don't call me that we do is as part of our spin on the show black on white guy because her point is not to call us out of our color support should be unity.

They were sitting his brothers in Christ walk this thing out and talk it out, out of love. So please understand were were converted from a title but the way you walk this thing out in place in life should be.

If you read because my describe him as a white guy that you should cut yourselves away. Women is my brother she's my sister that should be better descriptive terms to use for that person. Is this the small things will be start the change snugly one big sweep of of the changes the little things that struck create an awareness consciousness of sensitivity and then all of a sudden at the end of the day.

I've made some strides in the next day. I don't do the same things that would've done two days ago exactly and for the most part Roy. When someone starts describing someone the other person may even bring that up. They may say well is he a white guy was he a black guy. Is he tall guy was he sure got so you may not bring it up right. But what we're saying is don't be that individual who relies totally on Reagan color as identified as as an identifier or being descriptive and we have got go back like that. The subject insisted he said he was joking said I'm just in a black body.

He said probably not be a white man or another man, or a sin for any number of influences and ethnicities race. He was the point he was making, new creation, God is put in a Blackman's body and he looked me sorority your inner Whiteman's body.

But I don't know how I don't exactly who you are, but the new creation so I going think of you as a colored in the colored individual. I don't think he was white or black or red or yellow, whatever. I think you view as the creation of Christ in the new being that has accepted Christ as your personal savior or write Roy because we are spirit spirit that's right so it within us. You know, we are that that's it. That's the real you. Yeah Glendale you are spirit and and inside of us. I think if we if we could see into the spirit realm.

We may not especially what's going on around us. Most of us. Roy couldn't even we couldn't even tolerate all of what if we could see into the spirit rim and all of the spirits like flying around attempting to influence us. We just could not take in our mind could not conceive that these things are going on, but they are because the word of God says we we are in a spiritual battle will do what a great lady and you we talk about this evidence taken step in the natural.

It got to the rest in supernatural.

There are things going on supernaturally to wills point that you cannot see because God's either influencing or things are happening from a spiritual round that are coming at you in combating against you if we will just step with God that he will take care of the rest in the supernatural. He will come alongside of us, but we stay on the sidelines and continue have a sense of complacency and cavalier attitude notices the doctors talked about previously.

Then we are going to be in tough shape. Very poor shape. Okay, so Roy, we want to. I don't know if you know and be able to get this next clip in or not but we want to talk about this next clip okay so we will be able to get that in right now.

So we going to come back to that clip after the break, but that next clip he talks about how broadcasters need to be unifying the body of Christ. You know, as in the course. He was speaking at the national broadcasters convention and so he was saying that the content in which you putting out needs to unify bringing the churches together and and not separate the church is yet only to be the hub of a hassle and everything draws into that and then excreted as a unity. Your dislike or talk about your with the television things to be monster will say thing holds true for all the special-interest groups throughout there that are white supremacist.

In August of all the stuff's gotta go away. And folks, if you're been been influenced by the then you're not part of this hub believe you hub centered around Christ be involved in a group of people that are centered around Christ organizations that are centered around Christ do business with companies that are centered around Christ and choose your walk with people that are centered around Christ and don't be influenced by the world enough is enough, enough is enough is time to call the ball come to call timeout will make a difference to your point will HAVE responsibility. We as podcasting have responsibility to save folks. We got a come together and love each other, walk this thing out to be visible in the community and make a stand for God's word. Amen brother we will see you after the break and this thing is going to get excuse my English but is going to glittering good] is so much to join us 10 AW CM and would love to have you join their community of men for breakfast every first and third Friday of every month and Bible discussions and fellowship after the best breakfast in town meeting location is at their gracious posterior First Christian Church in Kernersville, 1130 N. Main St. encouraged him a hard start at 7 o'clock on a hard stop at 8 o'clock. First time visitors eat for free.

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You have contaminated the gospel, not because you Republican but because you've now made the nation subject to the wrong kingdom instead of the nation having to adjust to our King and his kingdom. Many of these problems that we're facing the wood had been the way they white church had not taken the stance to be quiet when Jim Crow was happening when when when when criminal leasing was happening when when all of these deleterious realities that has led to conflict that is still plaguing the Southern Baptist convention today and that ought not to breach there would be no national Baptist convention.

If the Southern Baptist convention was not a segregationist institution and left the kingdom, but the black churches become idolatrous to you black people don't get too comfortable, because what we have done is we have wrapped blackness and cultural identity.

So we have often been more black. The biblical we have decided that our college control. Christ so we will endorse a political party and was able say nothing about the evil of abortion gave all of homosexuality. Be all misuse of government because the race issue godmother rod the bags of dog elephants sits as King of Kings is laudable. Why I'm telling you the listener. If you were not moved by that clip. Then I'll know if you got life and you I'm telling you we're sitting here listening again and it's it's all the more moving when I hear but there were so many things Roy that he he spoke about want you go ahead and and lead often referenced some the things that you want to bring to it. I think it goes back to the things we always talk about the black and white issue here spoke to the white church is what the white church allow the half of the believers in the church allowed to happen segregationist to continue the races and the king continued early on and then talk about the beliefs of the of a particular culture in being swayed in because of another political side they align with another political side. The black population because they think they feel like that's got more.

There's worldly interest in mind right in there, but he caught a meal he calls out the obvious issues in society, and what's wrong with that particular stream of thinking biblically right against abortion, homosexuality, and then just misuse of government and the government weight affects people so those two things jump out. So what it was was hey were back to one body for doing it right is one body then there is not. This left is not this right. There's not the white there's not the black were all one spirit and one body fallen Christ a man Roy and you not going to be linking your ideology. See that's just the thing that I like about it. He said when when you start linking your ideologies to the political side or to the race side of the course. He covers both know then what you're doing is you are you basically contaminating the gospel yes okay and that's what he said with contaminating the gospel because now even though we we are making our political stand. More important than our biblical stand and again this is not to say that what's happening is not real, that's going on stew society where not saying that it's not real and were not saying that were not going to talk about it.

What were saying is, and what Dr. Evans is saying here is, is that when you start putting your values in these political in the race more than you do to God, then these things become your idol. Yes, and you're not looking from the biblical lands in your misaligned it automatically misalignments if that's your idol you're no longer in alignment with God if not in alignment with God and how can you be expected to live it out walk, you can't because there's no way physically and mentally do that right will exactly what you're spiritually out of alignment, and that's how we need to be looking nurses are we spiritually aligned with his will, and if were not there. We need to step back and pause you folks and if you look at this practically if you say I need to ask myself worried about where do I fall in this conversation I'm sure that you either in one side of the other is that I would be willing to bet 90% of us have been or are in one side of the other or currently are currently in so it that's okay.

God understands it but was not okay for you to stay there, you have you been given an altar call if you will to make things right and Dr. Evans is give the altar called this is not acceptable in God's eyes we know that if you didn't know you know it now absolutely and there's no excuse for for not knowing it because now that you heard it you can.

Not not here. That's right. It will all talk and live nothing before this show started about some conversations on this left the right donkey Relafen I had someone had reached out to me last year and said hey are you a follower of the current president and I said I didn't even answer the question came back from a spiritual perspective. As I don't believe in these three things which are fundamental in my walk with Christ and that's the way we need to believe it. We need to be standing in the middle.

This is one time you hear say stand in the middle not to decide to be in the middle-of-the-road and not leaning left or right.

You need to be solid walking in his footsteps. Following him in carrying your cross and carry the burden of what we need to be as believers in Christ and make disciples of all nations. As I pick and see when again when you start linking ideologies to these parties. Then again, the party becomes your idol.

So what what God wants to do in and through you is if you are led by God and because Romans eight and 14 says those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God. So if if you are a son of God, then you going to let God let you listen to what is being stated here today through Dr. Evans through the commentary that were giving because we are all about not allowing ourselves to go back to where the Lord has pulled us from we don't want to go back there I Bob trying to remember the Scripture Roy a if it's second. I think a second Peter chapter 2 in verse 22 wastes with talks about this like the old proverb a dog returning to its sonic again, and a sound when she is washed go back and wallow in the mire.

See this.

This is what we we don't want to go back there. We don't want to go and wallow in the mire. Now that God has pulled us from the Meyer clean this up.

We don't want to be like the dog who returns back to Islamic again you will because I was I was watching the other day Roy how the these days they had on National Geographic, and these were counties and and and they were showing how they hunt in packs and how they eat, and swallow a lot of this meat that they kill from gazelles or things like that hole and then they take it back to the pumps in a regurgitating and in the pumps just did it again and just start eating that stuff up so when you when you talk about a dog returning to Islamic you don't want to be eating something that's simply not good for you exact because you already know what is capable of dollars right and if you put yourself back to the remembrance of when you first accepted Christ that renewal and that just refreshing and that innocence that came over you and just the forgiveness is the Holy Spirit washed over you. That's something that we can realize it and be a part of every day every day will and you knows you were talking about the world and things going well that you we talk about the renewing of the mind. Romans 12 to go back and read that right quick will and will you be "off the top of the other think a few more times than you have. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be Trent be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is his good, pleasing and perfect will. Most times we focus will be transformed by the renewing of your mind, but let's talk about the very first part of that do not conform to the pattern of this world see end up in the pattern. Roy is how you are shaped see when when you when you pour water into a picture or you poured into a base it's going to take the shape of that vase so the water therefore is conforming to the shape of the of the face, but you will advise the turning away from so you don't want to. You don't want to be conformed for shape by again the things that God has took us from taking us from the world. He's taken us from bitterness. He's taken it from injury in the he's taken it from history.

He's taken us from all these things and now he's brought us back to a point of acceptance onto him and now we have to share that with the world just say in his presence. I think that Sophie will with all this going on around us bathes in his presence.

Quiet evening prayer room, get quiet and let God speak. Wash over you like that the demands as regards joints.

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