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Collateral Damage: Consequences of Bad Decisions Part 2

Man Talk / Will Hardy and Roy Jones Jr.
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November 8, 2020 4:00 pm

Collateral Damage: Consequences of Bad Decisions Part 2

Man Talk / Will Hardy and Roy Jones Jr.

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November 8, 2020 4:00 pm

Welcome to Man Talk, with your Hosts Will Hardy and Roy Jones Jr. This discussion this week is about divorce, and the collateral damage that it can cause. The clip used on the show this week comes from the films "Brown Sugar," and "Crazy, Stupid, Love."

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This is the Truth Network welcome to mannitol. Brought to you by TA W. CM is talking and walking Christian men's ministry where they are devoted to breaking down the walls of race and accommodation challenging men to take their God assigned as our host will Hardy and Roy Jones Junior, a black guy and a white belt that man never Roy Jones were so good. Doing this today and I'm telling you Roy you know there was some good discussion on last week we were talking about the collateral damage of what I like to call marital fallout, you know, is that when one brazen you know I mean EEG and we have it you know it's in the marriage.

People need to understand as born-again believers. You are always going to affect someone in some way. When you make a bad decision when you make a bad goodness that's right, you can affect them in and in some way. And so we want to make sure that you concentrate on the positive and do those things that are according to the word of God and not our own will write, but society teaches us different. That's right. We talked about that unless we show that you it is at issue in our society that is about self gratification is all about me. I'm not happy do not need it so perfectly okay for me to walk away from everything and start again or walk away from a wife walk with my children okay for me to do other things and just because I need to be happy and you know happiness is not joy. God gives you joy, happiness, Seattle be happy because I got some strawberry ice cream you nine and lunch is gone. I'm not happy anymore because it's all gone but joy carries you through it it it it makes you as a child of God in power to want to go out and do the things of God. Why, because our last show we talked about you know are you having a desire and being motivated being determined being satisfied being fulfilled all of these things a person needs in their life in order to be successful. Walking in the body right but you never going to find if you seeking the world that you are seeking these things in the world you will always be avoided. Doesn't matter how hard you try him at UMass will belongings cars houses all those things without the father in your heart and in your life you always have with you. You always be on the field exactly always what we talked about today as well as talk to the divorce piece will because we always full.

She could see. He's a starter look like a criminal because you get to get his mask up over the way Gypsy others because the radio believes is up with that mess around all night. I just got my master will Michael Haworth of graduates again wouldn't talk really got now divorce in the collateral damage you were not here to judge you always know that we get on the topic. It's about the holistic approach were trying to make sure that were moving as Christ followers in the right direction to get men moving off the sidelines will stock is not searing judgment on any topic you know know you had to go through divorce if you made that decision point is we've got to turn the tide so they were teaching our people are young folks or to adult friends that God has a plan.

We need to follow God's plan and walk these things out and go through the testify like we talked about that's important parts list talk about divorce some of some of the collateral that comes from divorce and the first thing comes to mind as I see it teaches children that it's okay to go do this.

Absolutely, you know, and when we look at Matthew chapter 5 Jesus talks about.

You have a course this this is the Beatitudes, and he says you have heard it said in no time – and not commit adultery but then he says if a man looks on a woman and then he has committed adultery in his heart, so you have to have the physical act and this is what we talked about last time having the wandering eyes looking once, but if you look again and we got you will do you think that bird that people have. We can down the need to be holy in their life because of the blood of Christ will think that they're not looking at the sales and what Christ have done and then to say if Christ did this for me then as a citizen of the kingdom. What can I do for others because of the two greatest commandments love the Lord thy God with all my heart, soul, mind and strength and love thy neighbor as thyself. So if I do those I have fulfilled all of them. The other eight so just to be clear to go back to this and the men might go to go. Love your neighbors literally done. That's right word, and in the gods that Anthony got absolutely just to be clear so we only by take our conversation wrong or with her own country as well because what they'll do is they'll say well that's a way to justify the end of this is what he said talking. It is okay to do is let me know. Love, but went back to your descriptions referenced will is the Christ was raising the bar, not into that window, but I will go back to my question to you when I said do you think the people have we can down their commitment because the blood of Christ. I think you oftentimes well covered by the blood.

Therefore, all my sins forgiven and I don't have to live his holy life is the Old Testament book because the Old Testament you that was the way right you had a holy life. So when Christ came.

Yes, we have our gate weighted to the father. Now no one goes to the father's son, Jesus Christ. But it doesn't mean we live in less holy and I think that's what we've done will exactly exactly and see here's the thing Roy when a person is talking about living a holy life.

We can't live that life and let's first of all we have. Jesus Christ and asked a man, but also I've heard people say this before.

Well if my sins are forgiven, past, present and future, then why not a lot of online need to confess like will, God would not have use the apostle John in in in first John 19 to say if you confess your sins he is faithful and just to forgive you your sins and to cleanse you from all unrighteousness.

So therefore if he said you have to confess your sins, you still have to confess your sin and say that for nothing, so he knows that we are putting ourselves in position and and we do do this to commit sin, but again I go back that's when I go back to James 417 if you know to do the will of God, and you don't know you sent then you say so. So my sins are forgiven, but if I'm willfully going out sinning, then I better confess that sin that's right, I need a fork you can remember everything done wrong. If you have the prayer time.

Father is asking for stuff that you missed those you can remember call about absolute shows your honor for the father.

When you do this and you follow his commands maladroit at that second clip I think we we need to go ahead in and put that on and and this is a clip from the movie, brown sugar and I think what it does is it it, we misinterpret some of the things that we see sometimes in reference to divorce and how we view it right in this situation, remember correctly, it's going up as the is about the restaurant situation where the folks this is important. Pay attention here because by 20 talked to the sea plan casual conversation it turns into something more terms at the restaurant and the next thing you know you and you and the middle something should be theirs. Specific incidents of cheating. Sorry about that wrong clip you here is pretty don't stop on my account name Trail Is Rich in Love with Your Loss and Some Girl Guys and the Recent Is the Funny Thing Is, She's My Wife a Side As You Know She Anywhere in the $50,000 Ring That I Bought Her, They Still Can All Do Not Put the Most Expensive Champagne in the Cemetery to Celebrate What Is Important Is to Say, Richard Lawson, Well That Was Your Apologize for Wrong Clip. New to the Elements, but You Know It's Interesting There, but Will Talk Literally Wheels the Sea Points Are Not Received This This Things Framed out. Husband Was Walking to the Restaurant Was Wife Is Having Dinner with My Meal with Another Man, Which Is Icing on Him and That It Didn't Take It from There and Then What Happens Is Both Start Getting on Defense. You Know so so He's like Why Are You Here and Then She's like Well You Know We're Just Here Together but Obviously She Didn't Say to Him That She Was Married.

So Wearing a Ring and When Wearing a Ring so so He Was like This. This Enough so Everybody Surprised but the Point Here Is This Roy Is If You Leave Live That Secret or Double Life. Beware, Your Sin Will Find You out It Will Find You out It Will Discover and Ultimately Expose the Things That We Are Harboring in Our Heart Right This Is the Collateral Damage.

So We Are Harboring These Things and so Now All Of A Sudden It Starts Affecting Our Work Life and Starts Affecting How We Respond in Community and in All These Things Thought Life. The Whole Whole Game and You Wake up Thinking about You That the Little Bear Think That to Us Talk about Some of the Other Collateral Damage Elements Are Will of Divorce.

I Think It Lowers the Bar of Expectation for the Children's Future Because When They See This Happen Than They Think Will My Parents Could Make It While Alive or Make Absolutely Creates a Mentality of If It Gets Tough.

I Will Just Quit Walkway Go to Bike Whatever Is This Can Be in Any Job in Your Marriage Just Sets the Tone for It's Okay to Walk Away without Working through the End There's Only Two Reasons Roy in Scripture That It Is All God Basically Put His Seal on It Divorce and That Is If the Individual Commits and Fidelity and in First Corinthians Chapter 7 God Rest of the Apostle Paul to Talk about Abandonment. So If a Person Abandons You Just Simply Walk out, Then You Are Not Liable from from That Point Because You're Okay and You Can Walk Away and Get Remarried Way to Get Ray Going to Break Were so Glad This Is Good Stuff about Your Bad Decisions.

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Welcome back to man talk radio this Roy Jones and I will Hardy a wave present going back into the brakes will wrap up this conversation will divorce and collateral damage. But so one of thing to always have its people against each other because no matter what the network is what the friends or close friends. Whenever divorce occurs, then rents are split quick. You could socialize with them altogether. Family members are hurt and often times a spouse will pit the other spouse against each the children against the other spouse in the end that's the worst possible thing happens in this collateral damage of divorce is for a mother or father to pick the children against the other others other parent is just it's really set or right when you devalue divorce and and when you devalue divorce then you look at it as a means of escape.

Instead of looking at what can I do look at is a challenge and say what is it that I can do to prevent that's right, or to try and heal my married life, since it is a marriage for life yet, and we often talk in her men's groups about if you will step in the natural filters take the step in the natural in this case, maybe reach out to counsel or maybe going to pass and say I need help what my marriage is in trouble if you will take a step in the natural and turn it over to the Lord. He can come alongside in the supernatural and take you through a journey that you never thought possible to resolution into a healing process and to love the depth of love, a true true depth of love that you never thought you could have it all, because in in first Peter Roy chapter 3 verses four through seven. God blessed of the apostle Peter and and you know at the beginning of that particular chapter.

David T says wives, submit yourselves to your own husband.

But he also tells the man he says husbands deal or dwell with your wives according to understanding so we as man, we have to understand what it is and I think this goes back to the five love languages you know understand what their love language is so we can apply those things that they are calling for, namely, not just calling out and say look husband. This is what I want most times I want some reaction in the past that is basically squelch that voice. But you gotta listen for what you do and if you squelch that you respond sets in times past when she or he started talking to one of you and then this is basically close the book. That's right it was not worth were not worth about six or worth the treatment with a response from so in this last clip we going to talk about. This is from the movie crazy stupid love. Yes and you know when you listen to it it it sort of like devalue these and people using the excuse of divorce and how I can get out of it. Rather than working out. Hats off to Keith our producer for funds force because it truly does show how complacently gotten society and we had. This is from a mist moving you hear will come back to this all I just I got the report of the year. Financials really arrange to kill this court okay all right okay who told you that Emily Arian divorce, Amy, are you crying in the bathroom. We all thought it was cancer. I select you are furniture now okay okay I you know that that's truly use. I think at least in US become mentality. Nobody it is. It is not. It's a big deal of dust. People are going through it to some degree, but it's become the outlet and will keep us talking for set this up for shows that it in this book is hard to help people just got so complacent is very complacent absolutely, and I think we shouldn't.

We should make it very difficult to get divorce.

It should be just a matter of use with the assets on the paper your way or some state study require that we just make it too easy well and it's it's generally Roy that one big fight and I'm ready to get out. Yes, that's great for will that the one thing spoke to heart some time back is folks, if you listen please never ever allow Satan to utter those words.

A few of those working on the hook and you don't like it. Just leave or I'm going to get divorced. This this is working out is what used once you speak it. There's a hook. The hook he's got even the other spouse or in your heart and mind and even really is not about economic I really would like a fresh start and you know there's all kinds of reasons.

Now Roy why why we can get divorces still trying to fill figure out Roy what irreconcilable differences is what is at me doesn't really mean. You know what I want to divorce you because of irreconcilable differences. So again, what were not making light of it, but again it's all of these terms that are put out here. And with these terms comes a way for us to easily get out.

Instead of attempting to work it out with nobody wants to work anymore, so therefore becomes irreconcilable.

It's only irreconcilable if you're not willing to work at it then really should be the flipside of the definition irreconcilable in the context of marriage, divorce is means that I'm just not willing to put in the work to save my marriage now and again were not going to the point of judgment, holistic view, holistic view, the number divorces in the church today, the number divorces across the country. We know that it's an issue. So therefore it can't be that everybody's irreconcilable that everybody's is no way to get through this. We know there are situations abuse and physical abuse.

We know there's psychological or psychological infidelity is just multiple infidelity situations. This time the pool out and God has given you blessed to do that so are the authority to to the blessed with the authority to do that by his word, so you will we've got to as a society gotta turn the corner. We know that were going to win the war, but we gotta turn the corner. He didn't start shaping up for families you start shaping up our household before we got a few minutes left want to talk about the collateral damage of racial bias and that you will see that there are shows a black man in white guy got a white guy. That's because we love each other as brothers and were here to talk about things that we experience in our life and the things it hopefully will help you understand better about what God intends for you as a man, following Christ, absolutely because you know there's nothing like experience when when you you know when you have encountered things in your life that you can share in their meaningful so that someone else could perhaps benefit right from these things then you know that should give you fuel to want to say hey, if this individual here overcame and God says, overcome first John 44 and first John five for that, overcome her, and I overcome because of my faith. Then there is nothing that can defeat me. I the one who defeats myself right allow myself to be defeated when not when I'm disobedient.

What I failed to meet the standard of God that he is set out in his holy word. These are the things we need to strive for the good work you know when it does there's a talk about this racial bias intro here they became the mouths of Matthew McConaughey movie that was out several several years ago was where he was defending her father, who had killed and shot each other guy would rate basically try to kill his daughter 11 to 11 years old and no smoke will bring the clear plastic liquid because it's a great great opportunity to talk a little bit more about this racial bias, and it sets the tone west will target that clip for next program going back just in This piece off the folks what they want. We know there's a lot of unrest right now in our society, especially the US. We know from multiple things was election topics are people set views on things or certainly the injustices as relates to some of the deaths occurred. We know all those things really got people on average bigger picture. We know how historians we know what God's how God's command and if you're following if you're following Christ follower. You know you have that you get your salvation. You know that you're going to be okay. So that's what will reassure you this point. Don't get distracted and all the things going on. Don't let Satan get you distracted with political issues.what's that you distracted with social issues that are kingdom issues it needs to be kingdom's lecture focused on exactly your daily life in your thought life.

Get your thought life straight thought. Life is not tuned up and guess what saints can have a distraction in your salvation may be assured that your impact for the kingdom gets totally out of whack. He pulls you off course because got you distracted. Yes, you're heading home but what about the person could've saved a person could share the good word to Elsa, that person comes know the Lord because what you did but if you distracted with the stuff everyday life. Most of the social issues and all those things going on that are kingdom issues I got.

This is important to God but is the kingdom issue that you folks don't refocused on an opinion refocused on one issue versus the bigger picture.

We talked about and this is why God tells us in Romans chapter 12 verse one I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to offer yourself up as a living sacrifice because this is your reasonable service or your reasonable worship. If you going to put the time in to devote your time to God to worship him to love him to praise him, then he's going to give you the ability to love others and want your love loving others then you fulfilling the law of God living sacrifice that means all in totally given up absolutely is no longer about me it's about the day. Absolutely tense.

And when we understand what our position is in Christ, then we can act on that position as men and women of God and we can stop a lot of these merit marriages that are ending in what I call superficial divorce which means you can also save those children in the background, healthy life.

Hoping there's better potential for help and you want to save your neighbor's children via phone to thank you so much for doing this. It's been another good conversation will it's always good to see you.

Likewise, Roy, and will look for cancer. A few days God.

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