John Scheil and Matthew Kern

Kingdom verse where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into kingdom versus now live from the truth. Your host Robbie Gilmore.

How fun. Today on kingdom pursuits. We have a couple of radio talkshow host but also all kinds of passions that they have to use to build the kingdom. So it was kind of fun when it's your passion is robbing him with passion to know share the word of God and in that kind of thing. Through this platform here on the Truth Network to have people that share that vision so to speak. And so today were blessed to have two of them first office. Hans Schild is what you probably know Emmett is good friends calling John child, who is the host of finishing well by you Cardinal guy.com welcome moms hello and today we let you know. We've had Hans on a couple times to talk about his passion, which is obviously you know how to leverage your finances for the kingdom so to speak, which is you know what he does every Saturday morning and were hoping you listen this morning and and heard that but we want to, highlight the idea of taking your show on the road right Hans well all will. So here's the idea and how fun is this that there are things I qualified chairlift distributions to CDs and and other things that really what we all knew that they were and how to use them. We could leverage tithing money and all sorts of things for the churches so and analytically left leverage them for the kingdom.

So the idea being that Hans and I would love to come due. Finishing well, live at your church or your Sunday school class or maybe got a men's group that meets with that be fun to have Hans and I we didn't get into contact hans@cardinalguy.com and working to come take the show on the road so that's one of the things that went talk about today on kingdom pursuit segment we have Matthew Kern and Matthew is is also just. Yes, all these different gifts and one is mainly a disease, a helicopter pilot and he flies for NASCAR right that's right. And so you know I really think it's a dirty job but somebody has to do it. That's actually right. My business, but the other ways that he is using his talents for the kingdom. Is he has a phenomenal. I don't know that I would call it a website and sort of a web web that is called convene communities but really one of things is highlighted. There is convening Christians and can you explain that a little bit yes so that the website the basis of the website is that we all have passions in life no matter what that passion might be an what convene communities does is bring like-minded people together within the community of their interests so honestly one of my biggest passions as being a Christian.

So to me when the biggest communities that we have is convening Christians and so it's a place of say space a place where we can be bring Christians together united to talk about the word to share the word and be within a group with people that were like and sought offshoot of that is Matthew is working on a pilot for radio show. That's correct.

Called convene Christians if I'm not mistaken, that is true, that is true and so with all these shows involved, you might guess Robbie wants to do a little so speaking of shows.

Matthew tells me he's had his hand in many a puppet show think that it can be in a minute and being a helicopter pilot. He can tell you a relief map shows where the restrooms are and show me a piano thrown into the Army trench and all you show you in a flat major. Show me a piano falling on a mine shaft and I'll show you in a flat minor solid one, maybe so. At the end of the shenanigans he knew that I would actually have a little.

I hope you did that you could call him today and when it 866-34-TRUTH 87884 and so speaking shows who in the Bible was showing ankle deep in denial and they dipped out a little profit this morning who in the Bible was showing ankle deep in the Nile when they dipped out a little profit 866-34-TRUTH 87884 is a member calling and win. If you think you know that one 866-34-TRUTH and if they can guess it today Rachel Tom what that will force tickets for that week force versus Louisville game on Wednesday, January 30. There you go. Tickets to watch Wake Forest on January 30.

All you have to do is tell us which person in the Bible was showing ankle deep in denial when they get down a little profit 866-34-TRUTH 878-848-6634 truth. So, John/Ron which you know that's one of my you know it's an interesting thing when one of your good friends is John child.

But when you're interviewing them on the radio show because his book is titled by Hans file I could call them Hans so hot who is really we been doing is showing our year and what you know what a friend and in such a season is my love of my life because John would tell you is I would tell you my father actually came home this week from the hospital were were taking care of them and oh my goodness, I could tell you stories that of how important the paperwork that you help me get the power of attorney and all those things are in and I just tell you one of the things that happens that you need to know about this when I've been dealing with this week was that someone with that and I won't even disclose what the alarm company is that caught my father apparently one of the days that something wasn't within 24 seven. Back in October and they sold him on the alarm system that he thought in his mind what he told me was always just can increase my my pay monthly payment about $10 a month. While, lo and behold, is I saw his credit card statement at the end of Gent December that was plus $4000 for the equipment or hear me for thousand dollars for the equipment now at this point enforcing a father just not in position to talk about that on the phone with anybody.

And when I called the alarm company will guess what the first thing they tell me is John we can talk.

I well bad news for them. You know I have a good friend. It is even finishing well and he instructed me long time ago to get mad because you just don't know when you're knocking to be able to take care your own business.

Story turned around. I think we will. As it turned out they forged his name on the contract and 30 did I lose you likely lost John. But meanwhile, we have Joseph's interest is in South Carolina and he has a riddle today, so put Hans back on hold. And here's Joseph Joseph. Do you know who in the Bible was showing ankle deep in the Nile and they dipped on a little profit.

You sure really quickly or for a blessing on you guys.

Love what you're doing. So my answer is I want to save the stirrer of mode when they found him in the Nile. She was there and I just absolutely love that and was named Miriam Mary and she was the namesake for all Americans in the world did you know that I did not know that now. Now that's the reason why there are so many Mary's in Jesus's time is because Miriam considered a huge profit in Israel. Your answer Miriam and she is one of those characters who was in the dial and then she was definitely dipping sort of guarantee that there's somebody else.

If somebody wants to call 86634 truth so much more Thing to hear how God takes.

They were so blessed to have with us on shyly, the host of finishing well with cardinal guide and were talking about taking this show on the road. We would love to tape or you know do the show there at your church or your son's school your your men's group.

Whatever you got going naturally finally done that now and it were tremendous fruit that that that people really know saw ways that they could leverage their assets for the kingdom better and and and and finish well essentially and also we have Matthew Curran, whose list with convene Christians as his website and his upcoming radio show as well as some of the other things that he does for the kingdom and want to repeat the riddle since I can see people calling in already and we still who in the Bible was showing ankle deep in the Nile and they dipped out a little profit and so Miriam was mentioning Miriam was in the Nile and she may have tipped Moses at one point in time if somebody else that dipped in 866-34-TRUTH 87884 as a member to call. We would love to hear you today so John we lost you there for second just when you're talking about the Atty. Gen. It's a horrible thing. Elder abuse work. People laud with the senior very elderly people father and taking advantage. Then, when you're calling you and friend Rupert.

You can get the call of the sale saving department and fill all I'm saying. Next time you and I get together with all of you and I are critical company. As you know my dad because he broke his neck. In September, sitting there in a C collar right at any site it so confused when he died laughing. My main enemies most brilliant man I ever met my life at this point in you know is he's gone through so much in the last few months that the sit there and selling $4000 worth of alarm equipment that he's not really sure about is just unthinkable to me and had I not had the attorney and so I'm I'm very very thankful and always that you know there's there's so much there that I never would have ever dreamed. I needed any of the stuff I mean there's him in my life today. There is rarely a day where I'm not asking about his power of attorney for his healthcare right. I'm not ask about his what you call it the lender. The durable power of attorney, but the other one about you know you can't discuss it at the hip agreement, all those things we got an order. As a result of doing that show, and now you know man almost every day. Hans and Sidney gone. I've got to do this for my kids and I'm not that old, but you know you know you could get in a helicopter asked the borrowed Matthew but you never know that's right. And then you sit there and you know somebody needs to be able to do your business and you got not know and also how are you gonna do that so that is just one of the neat things that I am just feel so blessed that God puts folks like this in my life and Matthew. Similarly, I'm sitting here looking at his website, convene communities in this weekend and and many that know me know that I do a devotion that the nursing home and in Marksville and I always bring in these papers and you know I've always posted my jokes@kingofthesuits.com for years will. Matthew took that in putting in the Christian community.

When you explain what happened in and what what it did. So this week we set up two groups for you. We set up kingdom proceed. So we set out the Christian car guy so I took basically the blog that you wrote that you did at that nursing home this week and I put it in what we call experience in an just to explain what experience is exactly what you and Hans are talking about.

It's it's sharing our experience is that we go through for the good of others, and so that's kind of the format that we go through within convene, but within a experience. You can put podcast you can put blogs. You can put just an experience about having to get a power of attorney so I took the blog that you wrote and I like to use the term.

It allows you to continue the conversation you are doing God's work at the nursing home while I put that in yesterday and three people of Artie gone in and answered and talk to you know within the convene about your blog that you wrote that which you know I'm sitting on my goodness, I need that God takes you know something.

Whatever it is that that you do out there in are you praying you think of this is what an and by making it available. He takes it in other people and and touches them. Obviously, based on the wrist in the results.

Just today and to read these answers is not like their one-word answers are some I mean that their paragraphs long and obviously it did touch some some way so that's yes that's right so there's so many different areas know it's communities, but there's so many different areas that we can go out or we can touch people and we can make a difference.

There's people on the site that have written about their struggles with depression and I write it in an anonymous way. But people are able to go out and really deny discuss with them in and talk with them about how they might handle that situation or how they have handled the situation like that you know and just really keep the conversation going and in a way where you can learn from others because really that's how we learn we learn from others and to others experience right which is now interestingly why radio to some extent it that in Hans.

I think about you know the idea behind the show originally was in all everyday people that God touches to go do something and they go do it and then you sit back to see what God did with and so you know you've been doing the show now little bit over a year and you know how neat is it to me that you brought it on a Christian network family financial shows are out there that you know on every talk radio station probably out there, but what Hans did differently was he made it redemptive. Like how would this be good for the kingdom and so I'm curious as your own response Hans to some of the people that engaged you as a result of hearing it on the radio show you that you guys are insurance agent 42 years me feeling adult a lot where here a big portion of that are coming in at client are now Christian and I'm talking about 11.

Previously, I wouldn't even know what a wonderful group of people to do business talk about this yesterday yeah I will. All of them really want to hear from me directly at some point what my fate and what they want to hear that connection you want to hear a lot about me.

I'm an expert in that they just wanted to see the connection regarding your kiss cannot hear you are all of us. You know you're realizing this you know is you're headed to the transition in the heavens that you may not get a lot of second chance and so it's kind important. It that that we make good decisions as we can. You know, as we finish well and I mean I've always loved the name of that show is that you know how can we make sure that this is the stuff is put in the best possible places in an and really doing to work with you on the show. Hans to see the importance of inheritance and that you know the Bible pushes inheritance a great deal when it comes to in of the Jews in the know when you look at the Old Testament. They talk a great deal about inheritance and they are thinking a lot about inheritance.

Even Jesus makes reference to it several times, but I hadn't seen it as is, what it is when you're the person that's receiving it. It's validation from your father. Your earthly father or its a sense of trust that wow they bear looking for me to take what they've done with this to create these resources to leverage them for the kingdom into the next generation and for my children and their inheritance and end and beginning to see that from a financial standpoint because I I'd seen it from the spiritual standpoint on but I had not seen it from the financial standpoint and and and that's a much a lot of what I've learned in being able to because I knew and Hans would tell you Robbie knew very little about the company. This really been fun and terrific what what I would say that healing that I get from them when they just purchased like or when they've just completed their power of attorney and their healthcare power of attorney and there will be deducted and the same thing when I delivered circuit beneficiary check it time that people started crying when they're sitting down talking to me.

You can see God right there right through their loved one a much they love though God's a big part of, and Matthews. He had off into the next phases of doing your own radio program. What what sort your vision for what you feel like God's asking to do their well it started for me a couple years ago I went back to liberty and I got my Masters degree in counseling from Liberty University and let you know that what I've always taught in one of always been out there teaching is decision-making and as a Marine Corps pilot and is a former air medical pilot then as now, NASCAR pot unit is a pilot we we really we learn to others. We we learn through flying. In our experience over time. The more hours you fly the better off you get so becoming a life coach and and and did my masters great. I know that the more we can share our experiences with other experience and knowledge is like about life insurance about you know the pursuit of God, the better we are and so that's really the goal is that I can bring people together bring their experiences together to help others how and what if one of vast background be able to do that. Well, you still have time to call in and win at 866-34-TRUTH 87884 until assuming the Bible showing ankle-deep and then I found the prophet stated that two seats where we have found to build the kingdom today were so blessed to have with us on Shiley's the host of finishing well here Saturday mornings when you're on the Truth Network and today's talk about taking the show on the road to your church which we can record right there in your sanctuary, which is what we did this in church and or where Matthew Curran here with convene Christians and upcoming radio show, but very much a currently a website where there were he's convening Christians in the community and community such as the heart of you know I think what Christ had for his you know flock, so to speak right in and that communities is where we you know essentially feel the love one yeah absolutely so bragging again. It's a it's all about bringing people together. I think in today's times you know were so divided and so many different places and you know where can we go you know where it's just it. Christians like minded people that want to share the word want to pray for each other want to work together and you know that is the home. So if you're going into that community is not just with knees, but that's who you're with your with other people are believers just like you nights ago. Or if you're in a car show about. Obviously you got a community that may be car shows or in Hans's case if you're you got a retirement community.

People are trying to you know that whole area of life. Hans that which you've worked in for so many years. There's a lot of things that people need to know about in there like veterans aids in attendance. This is something which I bet you Matthew would like to know about since he is currently a veteran yeah you look in the program is really old story veterans.

Another word document provide the care or a veteran eating longer here.

They're going to just send him a check in the family attract every month as long your lot. We use the for my mother. My mother collected from that program, $1750 a month or year it was much needed money to pay for care and we can certainly help you get that we have an attorney and elder law attorney to practice is right in our assembly to quit back a couple steps on that you taught me all the stuff so I didn't know anything year ago I had no clue that Medicare did not pay for long-term care.

I bet there's a lot of people out there that don't know Medicare doesn't pay for long-term care. But I had no idea so you know I have a dear friend that's you know right now struggling in a because he's only on Medicaid and the than the nursing home. He is in is not a place that I would certainly ever want to be in. But lo and behold, since he is a veteran he qualifies for this program that I'd never would've known anything about had I not met on trial and and and there's a lot of veterans out there that right now are suffering and places are not even have any long-term care but have no idea that the program even exists. Is it wasn't something that they didn't teach you that they met you. Matthew when you're in the link or know by the way you know if you need long-term care after you know you your 65, you know, we have a program for veterans Lester and Sam a medically retired I get medically retired from the record and so you not go through, and I see that there's so much that veterans do not know. That's one of the communities that we have is the military and veterans is because I go out and I work with veterans and their so much that we don't know about the system about what is offered to us. What's not offered to us.

And a lot of times it just goes by the wayside and you never know what benefits you truly can, you know, get in and out. By the way, you know, as I was sitting there thinking about it Hans, you know, we talked about your mother and and veterans aid and attendance probably three or four times but my brains just not too slick. It just now clicked in the fact that your mother wasn't a veteran it was your father. That was the veteran so that widows are available to get it as well.

Widows are built by my mother was a Navy nurse I did not know you know the North Dakota and she met my father, a German immigrant joined the Army and they met and she served or year. She was completely eligible and we had to do some financial planning to qualify and actually had to go to somebody else learn about that and that's what really brought my practice into the practice into helping other mileage height which is again speaks right Matthew. Do what you talked about, absolutely.

It's you know it's experience. How can we share experience for the good of others, and that's exactly what the whole side about convene communities about his you know I do a lot of work with people who are getting met going to the medically retired process, and it happens fast when they tell you get medically retired. The process goes quick. While the process unfortunately is not always fair to the veteran and if you're not educated on the process.

Sometimes you can get taken advantage of. So I'm helping in division. I was an officer, obviously.

So helping individuals understand the process protects them not only when they're getting out in that transition moment, but it really protects them for the rest of their lives and all the stuff that Hans is talking about and the benefits that you end up having and so you know this is very practical stuff here in case you think is amazing to be met.

You know it. It starts out with a love for Christ and this was very spiritual thing.

Love for the Bible, love for the word.

But at some point in time because it you grow closer into a community and you trust people more with your problems could not just think about Robbie, pre-Christian okay pre-Christian Robbie he would never tell you where he was really struggling and since I never told you are is really struggling.

You never could tell me that all I have a note that situation here that could help you and and so Christians as they are in a become more forthright with what they're actually going through it opens up the opportunity for other Christians to come in and actually love them well, absolutely.

And and that's a big part of the way that we that we wrote the application is the anonymity P7 to sometimes people don't want to come out and say hi. I'm Matt Kiernan I'm struggling with this so you have the choice to anybody can write up an experience. We want people to like you have the choice to do it as yourself or anonymous.

And then when you're answering the questions within their open-ended questions. Like you said, you know, people are writing how they feel that it's anonymous and so you're getting people's true feelings in people's true thoughts because they're not feeling judged. And then there is places within the Apple you come out you can post as yourself.

Just like most is social media time management speaks to why I love taking the show on the road of Hans because there you're in, you know, when we do the show or any radio show when you've done so now it is Matthew don't know if it is talking to the air is nobody here and so my wife always is the reason I Robbie glasses on junk so much as concerns got no audience is somebody in love. I don't laugh about tipping a little profit. I got admit that's funny. And when it you know. But anyway, that when we when we are there right Hans and we opened it up for questions because now we actually have an audience that were sitting with. I was blown away at how much more knowledge came out of you because people had relevant questions that we had never talked about in the show.

And so it really advance my understanding of just being in the group to listen to all their questions and you get that a lot will you people are falling out the door. Not everybody people will wait on done with the other folks in the bill talk for an hour after we went on the program at church or anywhere else in the people are people want to ask question. According to their own experience talking on the radio we always try to tell stories about real people in real client but were still just talking about a subject for today and the great thing about a live audience.

People are able to ask questions of mankind are not about what I'm talking about up there, generally in the area and people like that in some degree, they could still ask question words remaining anonymous person is or some of the pertinent facts, the kind of thing. And so it's a good thing you got there with the and it just makes people moral and that was just not kind expected. Some of it but but when I saw what God really did with it just really blessed me cousins like wow this is really really really helpful to the church and you know in and people, that is, we found out some more really hurt and Hans what they are and you know to turn the conversation. There is people in churches over age 70 and non-IRA in their just withdrawn the minimum and they got balances their tithers givers there there wanting to give to the church mission in feeling like they're only doing as much as we can. A lot of good and that's usually what we talk about it. You can give money straight from your IRA directly to any 5013 security, including the church in the collection plate and it is a pure text deduction is wonderful tax credit. Once people begin to really realize that they give more so, speaking about dipping out of a prophet. Nobody is called in with the other answer that I was really gone for us in all my little today and I hate to be stumped in a stump by audience today so 866-348-7884 as a number calling who in the Bible was showing ankle deep in denial when they dipped out a little profit 866-34-TRUTH 87884 we got we got your choice really, if you want to make force tickets or if you want to book from the kingdom for pursuit price on somebody's calling and immediately so we may have naturally come back to her since when we hear how God your passion and uses it to build the kingdom. Today we are so blessed to have with us in the studio, Matthew Kern, who has his website convene communities which led to convene Christians in a radio show which is good to be convene Christians coming up a little later this you're excited about Matthew. All that he does something different ways in convening so and even what is done with my own stuff this week, fun and also we have with this Hans child, who is the host of finishing well you might know him as John Chow, if you know this like I Hans is German for John right Hans so you I have the stuff I've learned that anyway where talk about taking finishing well on the road to your church or your Sunday school class or your men's group.

We would love to come and do that show life be able to have a question answer session afterwards and I am telling you. I know it's done in my own life and I it to be amazing what it can do insanely different ways than just another quick story you know how your or so ago and somebody said Robbie, do you know that it was clean Medicare and Medicare advantage answered in no Robbie, do you know what a Medicare supplement is know you know what a plan F is no you know what Medicare part a pork be part seat.

Now I those were all things I would have no clue.

Okay, now unfortunately my father's not enable you know to have these discussions anymore with doctors in all these different things and so now here I am this week. John and I'm talking to this doctor and they're like well is your father on Medicare advantage.

I said now he's got Medicare supplements I know is, and it's a plan F and I know that what that meant and I knew it I do what I was talking about all my goodness, you know it's for such a time as this.

You came in the my life in the in the eye and I just was able to have a conversation where I knew what I was actually concerned about how to take your my father in the book to show you so speaking of knowing the answer. We have Vicki shot, who has the answer about dipping in and pulling out of a prophet. Vicki year on kingdom pursuit good morning good morning.

I'm excited to know who in the Bible was ankle-deep in the Nile all the wind blows it out right thing flowing open it up.

No you are exactly right. It was harder that well his sister Miriam was was along for the rights of the speak, but it was it was Pharaoh's daughter, who by the way, you know, the Jews teach that she had a somewhat of a former leprosy and the reason she was bathing in the Nile was to deal with that leprosy, and they teach that when she picked up the little profit just what she was healed. And so you know you can imagine then she wasn't so quick to want to kill him because you know they're supposed to kill all the Jews boys and she was in fact pretty quick to think in this guy's got some I need and because it was in denial that healed me as she expected. It was the prophet and and I don't know you know consents to Jewish legend, but I think it's pretty cool to think about those things and it is all God bless you. Thank you Vicki appreciate you calling in the event I think you retire I need, but also we have Kinison Koufax and Kim always has great answers can muster been an essay Pharaoh's daughter as well, but I would love to get Jim's take on things because he's pretty knowledgeable so and always appreciate him listening as well as everybody so getting back to Matthew and convening today's kind of a big day and night and is a neat thing for years. It that you got in the show this week. Yeah Thomas like to know God has a plan and he knows and your timing when you call me this week and asked if I could be on you know we been we've been developing and going through building up convene for some time, but we really are looking at right now is the official launch time and so you know I think God has a hand in that you call me and asked me could have been better timing for us. You know you can go to convene communities.com and enjoy convene it's free to join, convene, and so it sits a website that we hope you know over time makes a difference in so many people's lives in so many different ways because I'm I'm guessing that you know most people have something that God's doing in their life that they would want to share that this is what God's doing in this area. I was like my devotional papers.

There are my jokes and my wife. She doesn't think they're all that funny but everybody else to. Anyway, I I am in a like oh my goodness these people. It was touched him and so you know, I'd be really interested to know what they do that you know they would like to share with me and so would you know there you go. The next thing you know you're in a community and your share life absolutely.

It's about sharing our life experiences for the good of others in it out that not all in a bad once positive ones. These are things that are going on. I mean everybody can use us if you have a passion there's a community for you and if we don't have the community will create the community in an groups go in and create groups just like regular two groups in an and Jon, I hope you don't mind I shared your contact information with Matt because wow I mean you have of finishing well community or something along those lines. A retirement community for people that are sharing that experience and to have you in that group is an asset that's unbelievable. And so here you have let everybody know that you want a copy of my book, you can certainly get a guide that you just send me a message that one out. You charge and here, try to say here you can see. Matthew will tell you that I do not have your book in front of me and usually for me to say the title of this book I have to write from his agency of the some first time ever on the radio. Robbie can attempt to pronounce the title of this book without the book in front of me is to complete cardinal guide to planning for and living in retirement by certified financial planner Hahn child is at right or what really took me 50 literary. All description great well and and and therein lies one little piece the charge that say because just like in order to find out about what Matthew is doing you got to go to convene communities and if you're like me you like hot Robbie, how you spell convene alone asked me but I bet Matthew knows and it's all go ahead. Matthew how you spell convene community yeah so it's CO in EE Indians and communities.

COM MUEITI yes.com there you go, and similarly you know you think lodges go to cardinal financial know her cardinal disregard all that it's cardinal guide.com so you gotta put in the cardinal, and then you know you got a you got a go to guide but there you can find the book you can find past downloads of the podcast of all the shows that we've done and I just like you said Hanser's 52 of those and you know I can tell you from having been up so the captive audience for which there is a whole lot that I have. I have never sat down with you and not learn something significant about finishing well and so it it it is it is and so you know there's there's those opportunities but I would imagine that if I sat down with Matthew if I wanted to learn how to fly helicopters.

I could sit down a lot more in 52 times and some every time I try next little while to get used to that.

Probably a lot more little while but think about how valuable that is what God taught you to do that, you know, obviously you're doing that medical rescue and all I can stuff right the assets I idea night I was finding her medical and ahead 650+ patient fight/flight's and you got it. This is one of the things that drove me to get my Masters degree and all that is you and I'm just pilot in the med cruise do absolute amazing work, but it was often. I would go in with the med cruised into the hospital and you know they're doing their work with the patients and then there somebody standing off in the corner standing by themselves, and if the family while their loved one is you know in a situation.

Maybe in a car accident or maybe they're sick and I always felt moved to go speak to that person given directions to the hospital the main hospital like Baptist that we would be taken into, but not always. You know, say a prayer with them because you know they are struggling right there whether Loveland is going to a physical struggle and for their lives and so that kinda brought me to close.

I'm now you struck my curiosity, so and I know this way off topic but had fun was there one of those trips that you went on my goodness God. This is where you had me here right in this time of this moment, but it was just so clear that this this was for me.

Yeah, there was II can't say how many those of those that were aware, you know, we land on the scene or we go to a hospital or some ice having a heart attack and it's the faster we can get them there if we can get in there.

One minute they're facing that in the next minute they're sitting up in bed. You know, recovery, and because the work the med cruised in and so some well on an absolute delight. Matthew go to again cardinal guide.com convenient communities.com right now your list of the Truth Network. So how fun you get to listen to the Masten journey starts here now at 12 o'clock followed by disciple magazine. I had some Matthew thank you thank you thank you. Have a great weekend