"Don't Overreach for the New Year"

Larry the cable guy your list on the hall. There are your little and it's a treat to be a long journey here with you was a plumage of one 65 million Americans serve as a family very difficult job very challenging set of circumstances and are mission, passion and everything else here is the show was to equip you to stay strong and healthy as you take care someone who was not and is just not any more complicated than that. Part of that is just we talk about different things of of of the journey and in love doing it, and we don't try to get into the nuances of caregiving because you know I can't tell you to cure your lovely morning Tobyhanna to Claremont. But what we can do is we can strengthen each other along the journey and can be a part of that. So I'm just glad to have you with it and always I have himself, John Butler, the Count of Monte disco with this John, are you with us. I am with us.

Yes, yes, how are you doing today for your you know I for the shape I'm in, I'm in pretty good shape. I had the show ready to go on Facebook because we stream the show will redo the podcast like you do here right I had it all ready to go is all tested out everything was fun than oppressed the go button and everything just fell apart. I have I have no idea why this happens to. I feel like they're really targeting metaphor in their talking in the background. That's why I'm just putting I'm reloading it and doing it again because I can just you know this guy. I am in this way I roll, but it is a little bit annoying that Facebook cannot seem to be consistent so anyway were doing well and I think there's a lot to be annoyed about with Facebook, but we won't get him about because this is not that kind of show I am annoyed with hey a lot to talk about today and noticed beginning of the new year in one of things I wanted to do today was just to help set the table for this year on you don't what is caregivers can account how can we navigate through the summing 2020 turn 21 and now is able to start drinking so he knows what to put a scope but but I think one of the pitfalls that we fall into is caregivers is that we tend to overreach and punch above our weight class Mono Mono that this is something I've struggled with not so you know I like I like the metaphor that's good sweet.

We often will you we see these things that seem insurmountable and and then overcome them, and that kinda primes us for walking, do everything all the time and to the point of burnout and terribleness well and setting unreasonable goals.

Yet you know I'm not a big fan of New Year's resolutions simply because I think that that it's it it sets us that we don't know with years of Holden and and I think that we set unreasonable goals for yourself all. I'm going to lose 30 pounds or I will do this right and I think lets you set today's resolution. Yeah and and so and what can we do today and I think this is a good reminder of where we are today and what what we can do for ourselves today and then later on in the show. I'm going to talk about some things that I failed to discover them a check out for you as a caregiver to offer some couple things. One is a creative outlet because I thought there something I really spent a lot of time on in helping caregivers find a creative outlet for themselves.

I think that is so incredibly important and and then the second thing is to talk about something else other than that it was funny that I watch with great and yes, our son, Jason, heat our big movie buffs and workout a behind-the-scenes movie but I'll give you a teaser on one of the stuff. There's a documentary watched called score's progress CORE and I would highly recommend it. It goes through the history of film music and all and don't have my name is Newman, that's what it does in the bodily. I did not know this from what I can. His father was a was a big composer in music.

Don't know that whole family human yeah like his dad and his brothers as a whole. Mesons that's why said Newman and not a first name when I was the mailman from Seinfeld, but no, it was his father did not dispute and but they they spit off a lot of time on John Williams. Go ahead and deservedly so. Because he he wrote some of the most outstanding and they said something I thought was really interesting if if film scores go away with that that that then orchestras as we know in this country may go away. They are just big yeah yeah yeah I area but it was just fascinating to me to watch these guys.

You know, come up with nothing, and that in the way the movie changed because of that and so grace and grace in our big phase. I don't say this very often, but I'm go to sleep now in the context okay you say Peter, why are you talking about this. Well I I wanted award for best original theme in a in a short film in an Italian film Festival narratives, so I I am an award-winning composer with you and on your wall. Well it is I guess I get that appear similar, but I did, how do you have that up, but it I did. I did win that end in that's been a big outlet for me, as as a carrier do my music and into two really kind of work through a lot of the things in my life. You whatever challenges and and I love to watch documentaries on that sort of thing and what she's decreed no artwork and and I had not heard of that but I am I'm I'm very interested at your often I go gaga is a good talk.

Now watch document about penguins or something like that is how I background whatever bites that one is one that I I feel like would really that I would sit down or not not leave until it was over and and really had a fight because at that you would you would really like this and in the process that they go through.

This is astonishing. Also watch the document what you love documentaries because I think it's better than watching the news and a high and I feel a little smarter after watching documentaries. Oh, but the implication be just I just walk away delegates. But you know we will be spotlighted appalling that that lady who sent me, that listens to the show in which mass of the air, which if any list or has any poet that they've written as a caregiver, please send it to me with hope for the caregiver.com under the contact thing just send it to me will read it on the air those laws is not like a inappropriately link how well but to but you know but but but I think that's a wonderful healthy outlet but I was I was watching a I was watching a documentary last night on Fanny Crosby that you may not know who she is. That is not a name in her name.

She was born Francis Crosby but she went by Fanny and she was blind. She was a blind dead as an infant and sadly beckoning. She was born in 1820 and she did that the family called the doctor.

She had an eye infection. The doctor was away and there was another doctor who was kind of a evidently turn out to be a real shyster and he wasn't properly certified at all and he came over there and he put a mustard poultice on her eyes ended and another infant size as an infant, and it blended and it was a reboot okay and that's the tragic of a urologist.

Sadly, you had your basically one step up from which Dr. medicine but she went on to do extraordinary things. She was the first woman in 1843, which is 23 years old to address Congress really okay and and and that was which was astonishing and she did on behalf of people with disabilities and that she was at the New York school of the blind and she was in a tremendous poet and prolific poet.

And then she became a Christian when she was 30, and then started writing hymns when she was around that age, but really started most of her him. She wrote in her 40s from her 40s on each unit running more than 10,000 hymns hold no sense it and she has again was one of the most pushy and right of other students because the publisher had so many coming from her that they thought just words, we go to book a personal did it under different names and some of the most beloved hymns in the country that that within the world that their son. She wrote and she was blind but it but it was her love of poetry and she's blind since birth, but to her love of poetry that really in her mind was so nimble and so quick and and I I came to have again even more respect for those who are creative with verse, you know, and so I want to encourage all caregivers listing right now it doesn't have to be what you think may be master quality. If you feel it right it, Dale wants even more into writing the yeah and it it it doesn't even have to be something that we traditionally think of as creative or art or whatever, it can be a little bit outside out.

If you want to me nurse in Europe, you will write poetry or music and and and they draw things like that they can be a creative flower arrangements. People do all kinds of stuff. The interior design and and and whenever it happens to be what ever gets oxygen to your soul you know I I go back Dylan Thomas. You know what he was watching his father die as he was my riveting. On the other night on on another thing I'm not go gentle into that good night, and it it's just, you know that any was he wasn't trying to write a hit poet. He was watching something that cost him aches and he wrote it down and and I think is caregivers you know if you have that kind of outlet I don't. I'm not a very good lyricist you know I write to care to share to be there.

I have great here in Ohio yeah and so not I burn out often. I'm not that guy, but I get to talk about why I brought that up later on the show because I have something I found that I'm to be testing on myself. The number do that with other caregivers but but but today, instead of setting a new year resolution. You know, can we can we maybe just dial it back a little bit insane but something you can do this afternoon for you as a caregiver. Whatever you're listening this podcast and I hope your source of subscribe to the podcast by the way, because we are we are on every kind of platform out there and and we have a great time with it and I think all the data that we've seen, it is the number one podcast in the world for family caregivers. So there is that when Chernow there with your friends and now if even even if they're not a caregiver wanted one of the things we want things we do here is just speak the language of being a caregiver, and often times people who are not in that might could use a little example, if they if they got a loved one who is in the caregiver low for somebody else to come maybe one or two steps removed from it in and want to know or just be a little more daft in the way that they they behave in that situation will in the podcast has sold him money so women are funny or serious about the podcast for me has been a real treasure. I do the broadcast every Saturday morning live and it's very caller driven, but the podcast is something a little bit different and this allowed us to open up and and unpack it and John and I kick around these ideas and and I was you regular listeners know this. He often tells me but the secret is is that these are conversations. John and I used to have.

I don't, the mezzanines of array had a jacket that I heart studios and national music row for many many years and we would kick on things that we found interesting and it only felt like it would be interesting to develop caregivers and and you know we're not here to solve problems you may have or that I may have over here to do is to build each other up and strengthen each other on the journey is health caregivers make better caregiver so keep that in mind, I've enjoyed the podcast and I hope you are as well and share it with others.

It's a free podcast, put it out there and have a good time will be right back. I got some great things were talk about work talk about some things you can do starting today still going all the way to the whole new year… Deal with this is over. The caregiver's funeral right back. Have you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs and became I questioned why God allowed something so brutal to happen to me. But over time the questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing with help more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis. We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in a Tennessee prison.

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Whatever. And if you need to write me, but there's the website you can do that would be glad to have you do it, Jon. I was enormously this for the next segment because this is a is something I want to continue toe, but I wanted you back to the music thing now. Yeah, and I reached out to a friend of mine, and he's got a cerebellar test this on myself. Okay, so not out today just give a teaser for women to test them myself to see because this is an outlet that I would like to do for me okay as a caregiver that subtly for everybody. But if any of you have ever wanted to be a songwriter or to be better at it if you like writing songs like write music whatever input you want to be better at it. This guy is a very, very successful, establish songwriter.

That's what he does for a living in Nashville.

I used to do martial arts with and he wants this thing that's very affordable is the subscription per month, but it gives tons and tons of videos and access to him basically downloading his craft into the streaming service that he's provided and to help you become a better songwriter so that you can learn the ins and outs of writing good quality songs that would be commercially viable and if that's something you want want to do, which is something out. I've done that up enough got cells that were cut and have done things and so forth. But I certainly would like to do it better and I mean you know and and he's a pro and it's all to try that out for me to see if it works on me and if I like it and I but I believe I will. And then I'll pass it on to you guys thought to be something that may be of interest to some who because I know we have people in this in this audience who do like to pick up a guitar or piano or whatever. In John's case back up. Diana love by the way, I did see him and us also.

I post this on Facebook the other day and it was somebody doing jazz on a bagpipe man.

It was at first I thought no and they were right in the notes and everything. It was really good way. It was okay calm down, I'm down that you have you seen the got this dress to the kilt doing thunderstruck audit how you know I got yeah I've I've seen that yet a I Lang I come out. Of the top like this good method that the guy in Portland he he also rides a unicycle and occasionally wears a Darth Vader mask God love him for that to do well as I what he expected this, but I was what us all into thunderstruck. I thought that's the way thunderstruck should have been done that today happy. For those of you that don't. Maybe care but John the felt like it was important but know I the creative mind for triggers and I can't stress enough as we begin this new year.

I cannot stress enough how important it is for you to give yourself permission to unleash that creative mind that you have as a caregiver. I know it's there. You can't do.

How do as a caregiver without having more and and let me a quick aside, we always do, but everything we do it if right right but if you if you don't feel like like you have a huge amount of like oh there's a story in my brain that needs to come out or you don't usually say create in quotation marks out of whole cloth.

Some some new things some new poem some new song or whatever. I want the things that II did throughout this year with that satisfied that urge was I built several wooden clocks, which is a little on that you ma'am yeah but these these were not things that I designed myself. They were from a kit.

So if it meant that worked out really really well because I did get to satisfy a lot of maybe that creative bog that sat like a woman developed a process for how this all goes together or really just think about how I need to make this work without snapping.

The one piece that's really really important that would identify the just what I will now send the Excel fuzzes allows it model yeah and and I I was the other way. I did really well with models of your life you like models you like that while I was can ask you how how we model trains are in your basement or something like I always admire people that that has huge trade setups but ill right creative blood, which is a very creative thing you know it. It is in the creative thing is not limited to music or even the arts, you could be somebody would really enjoys cooking and cooking something more elaborate. John your like that half and so many games online the slobbery five years a day to order knock your socks off. What strawberry pie strawberry pie. Absolutely fresh robbery five will you know there are so many online tutorials that you could take in and I would highly recommend taking advantage of those things it could be no a master class in such and such. That is its affordable. It's easy, but it gives you a gardening over the woodworking. I admire the people who do woodworking. Oh man, it is amazing to have things they can do a wind like a lot of these. They're not even there is no cost like armor fever watched binging with Babich's YouTube channel, but it's a it's a cooking show and you just he cooks things from like shows and movies and you don't like. It's like they were to try to construct this obnoxious sandwich from you know SpongeBob SquarePants or whatever he has.

He has the boys.

It's really really nice, but the yeah there's there's is that there's a ton of things out there that maybe low or no cost. You can learn really almost anything please do like to sit up and take heads of all these documentaries because there's so much bad news or so much bad trauma and all the stuff on the field, you get to watch certain things, but said to think smarter neutralizers anyway, we got go to break will be right back to talk about small things here.

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He knows he tells like Jesse the body. Ventura he dies. He does say I think are from the same Minnesota yeah yeah yeah so and by the way, if you ever want any of those products you can use the word caregiver caregiver and you get a discount caregiver instruct promo code caregiver over try to have them on the show so that we can find and so that's that's coming up and we can have other guest along the way and I think you'll be pleased we get it. A good slate of folks that we like to have on some of the well-known some of them are not, but it's always a fun time to unpack some great conversations with folks I've been I've been always pleasantly surprised by just the way the conversations go with these folks and this is great form just got a kick around and so stay tuned for more more one forgets. But in the meantime you have John and me well closely. John and I John I've got it I got a quote for you. Oh right on okay hi I said this to my son the other day because we are told that some issues in his business that he's a scatting source of the human resources issues that I say that my wickedly enough. I think you did and I think it better was there was a lot of lovely Orwellian way of putting he was torqued a little bit because he was afraid that some of the stuff we can get in that be and making his life more filled with drama or is companies can do this and this and I said look, risk aversion is is not a a sustainable way to live the is not ugly that it's important if you're an engineer and your middle-management somewhere, but if you're gonna be any kind of entrepreneur self-starter. There's risk involved and you muzzle just accept it and I said this quote I just it just came out of the off the top my head and I want to talk about a little bit with you and I said life is messy. Keep them up close by God, and he looked at me. He said you know that I got a right that would down and MS it was welcome to it.

But I want five cents every time you use no absolutely.

Let me know.

I thought about that okay is caregivers life for us is very messy and and will be and keep them up close. Sometimes you need a literal mom) just affect the property for this afternoon but it's it's okay and I've learned to end it. What happened was I used to get so uptight about that sort of thing because like Gracie for example, if she's if you decimated a wheelchair you're going to have spills okay. She said it would list it with the literal messy part, you're going to have spills it's going to happen.

You cannot avoid it if you get somebody has any kind of mobility impairment is goodness with the Gracie, her hand on her right leg. People know this but on the right hand. She had a pinched nerve in her elbow and her the nerves on her hand really messed up and she can't grip very well and so she's lost a lot of feeling in her fingers and and that's been very very troubling to her because Gracie also was a pianist and but and I and I hate that for her but holding a cup sometimes can be in a little bit of a child she could have even it was still nice to get very uptight about things because there's there's always a mess to clean up for this or whatever summer spill seen on a dear John, would get rid of carpet and then those nonstandard solutions for things like I some people struggled with depression or anxiety, or various your mental health issues that can produce some weird and unfortunate things like it might be a week or two before they get around doing the dishes or something like that and you look like at this this happens. This is not now interest is just the deal and I was reading a thing as Masaki arched like I can't keep up with the dishes.

That is the one thing that is really torquing me about this and that the therapist was like well now what's stopping you from using elastic plates or paper plates or anything like us to know me because I love you feel do you feel shame about that. Yeah you know you might because of the way that mom mom would not like this at all bytes when it's just more interest you or your your family or something like that and that's a total like white when you think of this order. I think about love.

I know you are saying is that this is this is like the third time this week. I thought about the water boy. Go ahead and share the one who says what mama don't know what I said things Henry Winkler that sedative is mystical Alliance that mystical classes and so you know I think this I have an autographed picture hanging in my house of for reasonable who was his. What's Your Name Vicki Vallen Ct., Dickey Family Court. You have allegories you have an autographed picture of Vicki Vallen Ct. yes, since you know I will and you because you graduate, nonconventional solutions, so yeah, well, actually, in some respects is it kind of conventional solution but is instead of stressing about the carpet needing messy with something on spill. You get rid of the carpet and I don't ever anticipate if I can ever help with the in my life having carpet again everywhere right now Wenzel Kevin room right now. I have just a little bit in my office right because of the sound for the radio but you could probably tour up a lot of the carpet inherent in them when we enter the bill in the billing house where we go with him teared up abusive don't you think it told us in our shoes. I can go barefoot in the house. You know why okay Mike, I want not hard to prepare for getting you need to cheat and that's why you need one little Patrick carpet so you can make fists with your toes. Well Bilodeau I hate to diehard ruined me for that and Gracie is that like big you. She doesn't need the carpet. You know with wheelchairs and blessed legs and allowing the seller's now yeah does it so it's actually harder on her and saw that okay just go with it, but life is messy.

Keep about close by, and as a caregiver. I would suggest to you, in particular if you're new with this if you're new at this. Be prepared for masses. Okay and avoid if possible. If possible, trying to over prepare for masses yeah sometimes it doesn't happen yeah and one point we say, be prepared for masses masses are not always spilled young chocolate milk on the carpet which is the worst by the know Noto etc. no one I don't know there's that there's more hungry out of Noto that would ultimately be there source. This is good this is coming from a parenting and point like that's that's the thing that always would. You know I'm calm dude in a pre-calm dad. But the thing that really would just hit that anger button in my head was whenever chocolate built on the carpet.

I now have hardwood floors just like you and I'm good with it being prepared for that with mom but also being prepared for the emotional masses that well well said brilliantly said he has slightly exceed his most normal people sometimes my reach extends might exceed micro known as those who are look here puddle gloom as tall as you are diligent get that, but you and me with that. You know it because you you're going to have emotional masses you going to have drama in your relationships, you're going to have all these things. It's going to happen. It's okay. Life's messy amount close by and understand that perfection is not the goal. Okay, it just cannot be, and sometimes perfection is the enemy of the good and and so is something I was sharing with Grayson as we did that week, and any seem to think that had value to them and and he said okay I got it so he's not spending all this time try to make sure nothing bad happens instead make something good happen and I think that's what the advice I would give to myself in the covert world. I think silly people stop living in order to keep from dying and you know that there has to be some balance to your life. You cannot just go into a self-preservation mode 24 seven. You're going to have to extend out and take a risk and CS Lewis. You know the the hell that doesn't dream code.

That doesn't mean go to the dance club right now.

Okay guys I got snow but there's a great quote from from Lewis. This is if you love deeply you're going to get hurt badly, but it still worth all that agreement while he was a very creative individual, but I watched a documentary on him and and one guy said he had a lot of things to Sadie sitting will that's no fit so that if you love anything you go to get hurt badly, but it still worth it enough say to you as a caregiver you love deeply that's kind of the whole point your caregiver.

That means your loving deeply someone else at your expense. It's going to hurt. It's going to feel uncomfortable, but it still worth for multiple reasons and your loved one may not be able to reciprocate back in the way you would like to satiate or yeah that they may not think they just may not and often times it happens. Maybe they have an impairment that they can't do it. Maybe they're just being a jerk. I don't. That doesn't mean that you're not growing and becoming a more spectacular individual because you're expanding your heart and loving deeply and that is kind of what I was thinking about writers we were going to break last time we were talking about doing creative things or or or learning something new Archean going on YouTube whatever and and and finding something and I don't want to equate these two things cuts having a growth mindset of like I IFI I plan on learning for the rest of my life and the intellectual humility that comes along with that is something that I find very important and and and that there's always something new little thing to discover about whatever it is, even your great passions, especially your great passion. I think it's it's it's Grayson I want a great grade. I went went. He's been out here Montana.

With this he went back to Nashville. But when I Grayson is a deep thinker and I enjoy those conversations with them.

Enjoy my conversation with Parker Parker's three children, four dogs so it's I believe that's what we call passel. This is a lot so it's that is that we had a great time and I got to see my little granddaughter over the holidays. We came back in Gray's been with us little bit so I just said Bible. He and I would have these conversation and it's it's really about personal enrichment in my going to enrich myself, not waiting for things to be in order or perfect in my life. It just will hit every day look for something that's going to enrich me and I would suggest to you that as a pianist as a composer as as an artist. I am far more pleased with what I do musically that I would be had I not experienced some of the pathos that I've done is a caregiver coming I I cannot see me playing the way I play if I not felt and experienced what I experienced as an arsenic see how any artist is that and as a caregiver. I would suggest to you that that what you're experiencing is however painful, however difficult, however scary is just is equally capable of of expanding your heart in ways that you may not expect for you to to love more deeply for you to experience beauty more deeply and for you to be loved more deeply and embrace love more deeply and in in all its capacities with others. It's it's stopping to look at a flower that you may not see, I got the other morning and we have admittedly one of the best views the function you have our IRI-Yvonne Bryden body I have is from our bedroom window, 30 miles east of playing along at home. If you're if you're standing at sea level on the planes you have about a six or maybe last mile you get on the 6000 feet and we had over a valley and then the peaks rise up of the other side of the valley. I could see the pics going way down south toward Yellowstone and then on a clear day and I watch the sunset come over the peaks with some rescue over the peaks and it took my breath away.

I mean truly enough seen this view every day, but it just like how you know and and yeah I want to write a song well he did, but I can appreciate sunset beef ghetto and when I was young and sober sunrise when I was young, but not nearly on the scale that I can do now and so is just a thought that that I wanted to share with folks that yet life's messy. Don't try to you know spend so much time avoiding the mass but when when it comes to just be prepared to clean it up and move on and keep going. You were going to say II just hello no no no no no no, you need to finish that back to know why I hear you, in that it's it's it's not that this is not to say that because I owe you can have life without shadow right okay as I get you targets can have good and valuable. I is defined by their opposite, that is not to say that the shadow or the darkness is good it is to say that it is that it can provide much-needed contrast.

Contrast. Contrast is this is open caregiver will be right back with something that has nothing to caregiver made me laugh really is Craig my my engineer just hopefully caregiver Theatre Roseburg John that was joining us and hope they can have you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger in 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs. They became. I questioned why God allowed something so brutal to happen to me.

But over time, my questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing without more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis.

We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of this is to point others to Christ. The source and my help and strength, please visit standing with help.com to learn more and participate in lifting others standing without.com. I'm Gracie. I am staining with help Butler. Hey listen real quick just there when he is. This is not an unregulated but there is a wonderful movie out there that is become a cult hit. It didn't lick when it first got going.

Everybody's can figure out how to define this movie and then also some some flipped and it became a cult hit and they've done a documentary about making the movie.

So now I have is real quick aside because I have been I have the last song I was learning to play SRI.pick up two days ago my hope that the corporation remits without a hit it's mark your picture show. So… I thought that when I it is galaxy quest. Oh, with your favorite actor was not my top five and that is yours Alan Rickman well evidently this movie has become a real it it it it's it's endeared itself quite well and it said I will is as it should.

Well they grace and I sit and watch the behind the scenes of of this lady said you gotta see this in and of they were going to cast a bunch of different people in the role that Tim Allen really lobbied for he wanted Ed and basically what it is as if the cast of Star Trek made a movie about their their life as actors and then aliens from another planet happen to see the original series and thought it was real and they came to these actors to help them fight as intergalactic battle, rightly, that is the enterprise like will you navigate regarding it like the legendary Capt. Kirk you had so Capt. Kirk character was played by Tim Allen and in the spot type character was played by Alan Rickman and so forth. It was just hysterical but the way they made this movie and they set out to make a really really good Star Trek movie and gray and I watch this thing and just laugh, not just the movie we left the movie but we left it at it at all the behind-the-scenes stuff in the drama that was going on and I did not know this but the film company said to me that the that the producer of the movie sit when you make a movie like this you really hope and pray that the studio has a bigger project that is having problems so that there's no adult supervision over our gag in the studio was making a big movie at the time that was gladiator and hello running way over budget.

Read one of the actors that died during the filming of this movie, you know it. It was Richard Harris was. I mean, yes, it is a big movie editing that would usually mean to bother doing that the schedule here make this, and they always request it in in the in the boys room and Alan Rickman was so incensed by Tim Allen because tonality cracking jokes all the way up to the moment where there's a rolling and he's making the cast laugh and Alaric was of the I'm not going to laugh at him laugh at this is what you say II in the movie. I think he says like I think King Lear or something like yeah I said and and and there's is one scene, but is it then they got really serious. It's parts of the movie and was really very meaningful. In fact, Steven Spielberg came and said because his company was executive producing was watching Tim Allen, who was, you know he's a comedian and you know he's watching them deliver this emotional scene and in Stevenson or slip me the schedule.

He's doing a great job and then and then at it. Tim Allen was so overwhelmed by the emotion of what he looked at the directors that I got it. I don't really like what I'm feeling right now I get to go to my trailer for minute and Alaric, but said oh my, has been overcome by acting. He is flatly feeling like I get to Alaric but it was it was really quite entertaining. And if you if you enjoy those kinds of things just like my heart for a while and I do love that kind of stuff is just a daily adjustment. This makes me laugh so you you watch the documentary on the making of gal. Yes it's called Sen. off because they're like lettuces, never give up, never surrender. And I love you as you go without one or by grandpa's hammer donation Lou presented the potentially yes, I'm well worth any sleep and yeah yeah but like when they get transported the first time right and everybody else is freaking out or vomiting or whatever and Tony Charlene's character gets gets gets in support of the will is likely would get beamed up. It's like a little more wet.

Getting beamed up in this particular set of technologies like he was the only one was like I was a thing Willie was a this is before month, but it was really it's it's very entertaining if you want less of this can entertain.

This is has nothing to do with caregivers. I told you that it didn't do that.

We have all the way to do with caregiving. Well yes, well, here we all need a little bit of an escape sometime not mean an escape, but I mean some sort of pause in the chaos and one of the best ways to do that. We talk about all time have a good laugh that's it's it's so important yeah and well as a and II enjoyed it immensely and in and you look you listeners stayed all the way to the end of the podcast so up I go in there and you know it. You stated Terry yesterday.

It is so ugly we watch this and it was it was a lot of fun, but Tony Schlup love to me. I watched every episode of Mark in and I just love I love him and everything you this before, but this is really worth it just to see the inner workings ago on behind a movie you know making a movie like that and and then they they really did a great job of not for the first time that you don't Star Trek was kept alive because the fans and and they reference this in the documentary that the they think they had the view of the Star Trek fans is that efforts of the Senate left when Kurt came out there remember that would win shattered in this years on this if you ever seal set out live web chat was onset of this back in 80s there I think. Or maybe it had been these and they're all dressed up in in their Star Trek uniforms and get in and hit William Shatner comes at a site. It was a TV show without your parents basement was found with ghetto and had it all in favor just like really just is broken hearted insulate yeah that's kind of what they had in mind to do whatever they did X give respect to the fans. It is just a fun movie and that's get amazing gas but Alaric would you know they were to make a series of and that he died before they can make the Sears a very plain wrong there all to come back and that he in the past away, just a great great fun time so they had absolutely nothing to do with the things we talk about, but it made me laugh and I hope you enjoyed a good laugh as well.

Listen we got ago I new year here we are to something today that stirs your heart and remember life is messy so keep them up close by. You don't have to have everything perfect for you to have a spectacular and for you to have enrichment in your life do something that enriches your so start with that war that New Year's is the time I give my left and John always help the caregiver.com. If you want more share than like somebody think about it meaningful and maybe John Butler learned something that probably all know that Gracie, his wife lost her legs many many years ago and started a prosthetic limb outreach ministry called standing with and recently they ended up with a rather unique and unexpected partner, Peter had a conversation with Gracie and Nicholas Gracie. When you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach.

Did you ever think that inmates would help you do that, not in a million years.

When you go to the facility run by core civic over in Nashville and you see the faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you have helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and orange everything when you see all this.

What is the duty makes me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is to be locked someplace where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out course, being in the hospital so much and so long and so that these men are so glad that they get to be doing as as one man said something good family with my hands. Did you know before you became an amputee that parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled now had no idea and I thought a peg leg.

I thought of wooden legs. I never thought of titanium and carbon legs and flex fate.

The legs and all that. I never thought about that as you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people. Now walk the providing the means for the supplies to get over there. What is it do to you. Just on the heart level. I wish I could explain to the world. What I see in here and I wish that I could be able to go and say the this guy right here Denise go to Africa with that.

I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me have to leave. I don't want to leave them. I feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like we have a common bond that would've never expected that only God could put together. Now that you've had experience with it what you think of the faith-based programs. The core civic offers.

I think they're just absolutely awesome and I think every prison out there should have faith-based programs like this because the return rate of the man that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know that this one are. It is just an amazingly low rate compared to those who don't happen and I think that that says so much that has anything to do with me just has something to do with God using somebody broken to help other broken people.

If people want to donate or use prosthetic limbs, whether from a loved one who passed away or you know somebody well groomed.

You've donated some of your own for the did it how to how they do that now. Please go to standing with hope.com/recycle staining with hope.com/recycle.

Thanks, Gracie